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I invite all of you to Islam

Post by Xexos » 2 weeks ago

This post is a message to everyone in this forum, no matter who you're or what you're, this message is for you. I'm not asking you for money, upvotes or anything, you can downvote me all you want, i'm just asking you for one thing, read this post. I'm sorry if that post is long, but this is a really serious topic and no matter what i say, i'll never cover how important it is.

Have you guys wondered why many of the enemies of Islam who hate it so much and think it's pure evil, actually end up joining Islam later ? Even those Alt right who are more angry than That Guy himself, when they search Islam in order to attack it, they end up converting to it instead.

Take Joram van Klaveren for example, who until 2014 was a member of the far right Freedom Party (PVV), a political party known for its harsh stance against Islam and the presence of Muslims in the Netherlands. Moreover, he had been the right hand of Geert Wilder, leader of the PVV and one of the fiercest opponents to Muslim migration and what he calls the “Islamization” of Europe. He has frequently called for the banning of mosques and hijabs, as well as for the halt to Muslim immigration. In fact, Wilder was recently convicted for hate speech and inciting discrimination after calling for the expulsion of Dutch Moroccans from the country, threatening to take an active part in solving the issue. This, allegedly, is one of the reasons van Klaveren left the party.

He ended up converting to Islam after researching it


But this is not the only case known. In January 2019, Arthur Wagner, member of the alt-right political party “Alternative für Deutschland”, decided also to leave the party and convert to Islam. Alternative für Deutschland has promoted several campaigns against the “Islamization of Germany” and the presence of Muslims in the country in the last years.

Although he has not publicly explained the reasons behind his conversion, he has confirmed the fact and rejected his former political party.
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imilarly, in 2013, Arnoud van Doorn, also a member of the Dutch Freedom Party (PVV) –van Klaveren’s former party– and former advisor of Wilders, was expelled from the party after converting to Islam and travelling to Saudi Arabia to perform the hajj.

In the following video, he explains the reasons for his conversion, as well as for his previous radical stance. As he explains, it is easy to fall for the prejudices and stereotypes promoted both by the media and a part of a fearful society.



Many other examples can be found all across the world. The following video, a snippet of local news in the US, shows the case of two American anti-Islam demonstrators, whose views made a U-turn after they were invited to visit the mosque they were demonstrating against. As they explained, they were surprised by the Muslims’ tolerance and kindness, as well as by their desire to explain to them what Islam really is. After these events, they have not only rejected their former bigoted stance, but are willing to continue visiting the mosque and getting to know its Muslim community.



You know why ? Because when they read about true Islam themselves to be able to attack it correctly, they found the true light that was hidden from them, that's why everyone should really research the true Islam and see the truth with their own eyes.

"(6:122) Is he who was dead and We have raised him unto life, and set for him a light wherein he walketh among men, as him whose similitude is in utter darkness whence he cannot emerge? Thus is their conduct made fairseeming for the disbelievers."

Let's seriously talk about Islam, and while this will not contain any info about Islam itself, i just want to clear some misconceptions and ask some questions.

As i said before, i want nothing from you, but to read what i have to say to the end. Almost everything you've been taught about Islam is a lie. There's a reason they just don't want you to be Muslims, since the Islamic ideology is like a spear thrown in the heart of their sick plans, and i'm going to prove it.

When a Muslim who's Asian, White, Black, etc, stabs a cop or raped a woman, which is a bad thing of course. Why when the media report it they include Islam in the news ? What does Islam has to do with it ? Islam doesn't tell us to rape and kill innocents, so why mention it ? Easy, to make you hate Islam and feel threatened by it. When a Christian or a Jew or a Hindu commits the same act, you'll find the news saying "A White man committed this and that", "An American committed this and that", "An Indian committed this and that", while NEVER mentioning their religion. Why exactly ? How is that fair ? It's also simple, because they don't care enough to make people hate those religions, but when it comes to Muslims it's a golden opportunity to kill any chance of people knowing about this religion or accepting it.

Also about "Jihad", you've been lied to about Jihad, you've been brainwashed into thinking that Jihad is a bad thing.

Do you seriously think that all the worlds really strong armies who have rockets, satellites, all this advanced weapon, huge budget, etc. Can't take out organizations like ISIS or Al Qaeda or whatever those people who commit really bad acts and terrorize the whole world ? Can you even believe this nonsense ?

Jihad also doesn't mean killing innocent people, blowing yourself up, raping women, etc. Jihad is done for self-protection and when Muslims tried to preach Islam in the other countries they were fought by those countries armies and they had to defend themselves or just be killed. Those are the two cases where you're allowed to do Jihad.

"Fight them until there is no [more] fitnah and [until] worship is [acknowledged to be] for Allah . But if they cease, then there is to be no aggression except against the oppressors."

"Excepted are those with whom you made a treaty among the polytheists and then they have not been deficient toward you in anything or supported anyone against you; so complete for them their treaty until their term [has ended]. Indeed, Allah loves the righteous [who fear Him]. And when the sacred months have passed, then kill the polytheists wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they should repent, establish prayer, and give zakah, let them [go] on their way. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful."

So you're only allowed to fight those who fight you and you have to forgive them if they stopped fighting or decided to join Islam.


Also why when a Muslim commits a bad thing, the whole Islamic world gets generalized for it ? What about those popes and priests who rape and molest children, should i go and tell every Christian that he's a child molester ? What about those Zionist Israelis killing and raping Palestinians. Should i go to every Jew and tell him that he's a killer or a rapist ? No, that would be unfair, but apparently it's fair when it comes to Muslims only.

If Muslims want to "take over the world", why couldn't they do that in their countries ? Do you think a bunch of weak women and kids and broken men can take over Europe when they're running away from death in their countries ? What about all those Muslims killed and tortured everyday for years in their own countries for being Muslims ? If the middle east is truly "the Islam headquarters", why are we getting oppressed and killed here then instead of praised and encouraged ?

Also what about those millions of Muslims who've been killed for years everywhere in the world and no one bats an eye ? Till now, Children get burnt alive, women raped, men slaughtered, and no one bats an eye, but when ANYONE else dies, everyone loses their minds. Are we not humans ? Is our blood cheap ? Is this fair ? No, but the media won't report it because they don't want Muslims to get any sympathy or support, just hatred and rejection.

Also why the media keep preaching day and night about Islam filled with violent things "when it's really taken out of context", while the Bible and Talmud are filled with direct orders of killing and raping and slaughtering every children and animals, and not a verse or two, but tons of them. Why the media doesn't mention that ? Why the priests who attack Islam won't mention that ? Because they simply don't want to do it for their own agenda.

Also they keep telling lies and myths to the poor people about how Allah is a different God or a moon God or any of that crap, since the people are ignorant and won't research it anyways. They don't know that Christians and Jews in the middle east also call God Allah, since Allah means God in Arabic and it's the name of the Abrahamic God. And also nonsense about how Muslims worship Satan and how the Quran is filled with sexual stuff, when there's no verse of any sexual things in Quran, while the Bible and Talmud and Torah are FILLED with incest, fornication, disgusting acts, borderline pornography, etc. They won't stop lying about how the Quran is filled with contradiction, when there's never been just one contradiction
in Quran. Those idiots usually get deceived by their ignorance of the Arabic language and lack of info about Islam itself, while on the other hand, the Bible and other books contain hundreds of clear contradictions.

There's a reason every part whether they're the media, the elite, the priests, the popes, etc, won't stop lying. Protecting their positions and protecting their plans is worth it even if they'll get burnt in hell later since they've already chosen this life to the afterlife.

Please try to give this a better chance, i know you've some potential inside you, but you're blinded by the brainwashing and the lies and you need to get yourself out of it for your own sake. Islam will not shatter your world or take away your happiness, it'll make both this life and the afterlife much much better and you'll finally find the peace you've desired near Allah. If you have any questions, you can ask me anytime.

May Allah guide you to the straight path.
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Re: I invite all of you to Islam

Post by Pat » 2 weeks ago

didnt read lol

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Re: I invite all of you to Islam

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Pat wrote:
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didnt read lol
Why ? You should read for your own sake.

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Re: I invite all of you to Islam

Post by Afro_Vacancy » 2 weeks ago

If we wanted to join Islam we would have done so already.

Religious activists of multiple religions are fairly active in the world, in my life I've been invited to join Orthodox Judaism, Islam, Mormonism, and probably others.

But here's the thing: I believe that people either believe or they don't. It's something that comes from inside, I don't think that it can be forced. In a way, I wish that I were a believer. It would be more convenient.

I pretend to be when I visit religious relatives, and I see that it works well for them. Most secular people only have their schoolmates and work colleagues as friends ... Religious people have a third and independent network: their church / synagogue / temple / mosque / etc. That is a place to interact with different people in a different setting and for meaningful connections.

There are other benefits too. I don't have the energy to list all of them. But among them, Muslims fast for ~30 days a year, and Jews fast for ~6. That would have been considered coocoo a while back, I'm sure that many atheists mocked it. But science is now showing that there can be benefits to fasting. Admittedly, this science is young, it's a work in progress, but given the evidence I think that it's likely that most people would benefit from periodically fasting.

If i could flip a switch, I would be religious.

I think that mainstream western society made a mistake when it, for example, turned Christmas into a shopping holiday.

In the 19th century, Karl Marx opined that religion is the opium of the people. Well, we've now mostly removed religion, and we're seeing that opium is now the opium of the people. I read it an interesting analysis of that recently, which pointed out that religion is enabling some people to stop using opium.

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Re: I invite all of you to Islam

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If we wanted to join Islam we would have done so already.

Religious activists of multiple religions are fairly active in the world, in my life I've been invited to join Orthodox Judaism, Islam, Mormonism, and probably others.

But here's the thing: I believe that people either believe or they don't. It's something that comes from inside, I don't think that it can be forced. In a way, I wish that I were a believer. It would be more convenient.

I pretend to be when I visit religious relatives, and I see that it works well for them. Most secular people only have their schoolmates and work colleagues as friends ... Religious people have a third and independent network: their church / synagogue / temple / mosque / etc. That is a place to interact with different people in a different setting and for meaningful connections.

There are other benefits too. I don't have the energy to list all of them. But among them, Muslims fast for ~30 days a year, and Jews fast for ~6. That would have been considered coocoo a while back, I'm sure that many atheists mocked it. But science is now showing that there can be benefits to fasting. Admittedly, this science is young, it's a work in progress, but given the evidence I think that it's likely that most people would benefit from periodically fasting.

If i could flip a switch, I would be religious.

I think that mainstream western society made a mistake when it, for example, turned Christmas into a shopping holiday.

In the 19th century, Karl Marx opined that religion is the opium of the people. Well, we've now mostly removed religion, and we're seeing that opium is now the opium of the people. I read it an interesting analysis of that recently, which pointed out that religion is enabling some people to stop using opium.
(16:125) Invite to the way of your Lord with wisdom and good instruction, and argue with them in a way that is best. Indeed, your Lord is most knowing of who has strayed from His way, and He is most knowing of who is [rightly] guided.

No you wouldn't, since you have a false idea about Islam that needs to be corrected. If that's the case, why do millions of people convert to Islam later in their lives after studying it ?

If you've been invited before and you didn't accept, maybe you're just not meant to be a Muslim, but that doesn't mean we should stop inviting people to the straight path and educating them about Islam since some of them might choose a different path than the one you chose before.

And you're right that belief comes from the inside, but you forgot one thing, that Allah guide whom he wants to guide, i'm nothing more but someone telling you about Islam, but i have no power over you and i can't force you to join Islam, it's out of my control and rights.

Also Karl Marx was a mason, so i'm not surprised he's anti-religion.

Also you've not removed religion, Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world and not only due to birth rates like they keep telling you, but because of millions of converts from everywhere in the world.

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Re: I invite all of you to Islam

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Dugin > islam
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Re: I invite all of you to Islam

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C4L wrote:
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Dugin > islam
Everything you say makes no sense whatsoever.

The idea of sounding deep and edgy and "weird" doesn't mean anything useful.

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Everything you say makes no sense whatsoever.

The idea of sounding deep and edgy and "weird" doesn't mean anything useful.
Some entity created mankind from the clay :clap: :lol:
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Re: I invite all of you to Islam

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C4L wrote:
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Some entity created mankind from the clay
>Complains about an all powerful, omniscient, omnipotent, immortal God creating mankind from clay

>Believes that every species on earth came from a single cell that appeared from nothing

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Xexos wrote:
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>Complains about an all powerful, omniscient, omnipotent, immortal God creating mankind from clay

>Believes that every species on earth came from a single cell that appeared from nothing
I didn’t say i am an evolutionist
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Re: I invite all of you to Islam

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I didn’t say i am an evolutionist
You didn't, but you expressed your belief in many of your posts.

If you're not an evolutionist then, what do you believe in ? Agnostic ?

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Re: I invite all of you to Islam

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One day, i'll stand before everyone of you here while you're chained from your necks and tortured in hell and i'll remind everyone of you with every word and warning i've given you and with every word you have said, and i shall make you hate yourselves for it more than hating the hell you're burning in.

Remember my word, and laugh all you want about it.
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=227&p=16084&hilit=hell#p16084

Given this was just a few days ago, do you really want the best for us? And it was directed at everyone on the forum, but now you no longer want us to suffer eternally, you want us to join you. I could understand this type of change over a lengthy period of self-evaluation, but 3 days?

If you are signed up to this ideology, and you clearly exhibit this innate desire to see others suffer eternally if they don't subscribe to the same idea (which is actually the worst thing I can imagine wishing on someone) then obviously I'm not signing up to the same ideas.
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Re: I invite all of you to Islam

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Rudiger wrote:
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Given this was just a few days ago, do you really want the best for us? And it was directed at everyone on the forum, but now you no longer want us to suffer eternally, you want us to join you. I could understand this type of change over a lengthy period of self-evaluation, but 3 days?

If you are signed up to this ideology, and you clearly exhibit this innate desire to see others suffer eternally if they don't subscribe to the same idea (which is actually the worst thing I can imagine wishing on someone) then obviously I'm not signing up to the same ideas.
That was said when i responded to C4L because he said that Christianity is better than Islam, but i'm not gonna deny it or lie, it was directed at the whole forum.

It was more like a warning, rather than a threat. I'm not going to throw you in hell and i surely don't want anyone to be in hell, if i wanted so, i would have never made this thread, and i wouldn't be posting those posts day and night despite being mocked, insulted, ignored, treated like i'm insane, etc. I never asked anyone for anything, i just want you to listen, and if you still aren't convinced, just don't believe it. You literally lose nothing at all, so how i want the bad for you ?

Also I didn't say "i wish you all get burned in hell, but i said that you'll be burned at hell for what you did, and i'm gonna remind you of it", and trust me, if my father or mother were the same as you, i'd admit that they'll be in hell as well, it doesn't mean that i want them to be in hell, but i literally have no saying over this. Many prophets will have their families thrown into eternal hell as well and they also can't do anything about it. Nuh's Son, Abraham's father, Lut's wife, Muhammad's father and mother and uncle.

If you don't want to believe, don't believe, i'm not going to force anyone and i have no power or any right to force anyone to do anything, you're free to do whatever you want, but what i said will happen regardless. And about "the meeting in hell", it's true that i intended to meet everyone of you in hell and remind you of everything you've said and everything you've dismissed without even caring to give it a chance.

That if i'm not actually thrown in hell with you, which is something that i'm still not sure of.

It's not a way of taking revenge by the way or feeling happy about it, but just a way to remind you that you've chosen this fate with your freewill and that i warned you during you life but you didn't listen.

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Re: I invite all of you to Islam

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Xexos wrote:
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That was said when i responded to C4L because he said that Christianity is better than Islam, but i'm not gonna deny it or lie, it was directed at the whole forum.

It was more like a warning, rather than a threat. I'm not going to throw you in hell and i surely don't want anyone to be in hell, if i wanted so, i would have never made this thread, and i wouldn't be posting those posts day and night despite being mocked, insulted, ignored, treated like i'm insane, etc. I never asked anyone for anything, i just want you to listen, and if you still aren't convinced, just don't believe it. You literally lose nothing at all, so how i want the bad for you ?

Also I didn't say "i wish you all get burned in hell, but i said that you'll be burned at hell for what you did, and i'm gonna remind you of it", and trust me, if my father or mother were the same as you, i'd admit that they'll be in hell as well, it doesn't mean that i want them to be in hell, but i literally have no saying over this. Many prophets will have their families thrown into eternal hell as well and they also can't do anything about it. Nuh's Son, Abraham's father, Lut's wife, Muhammad's father and mother and uncle.

If you don't want to believe, don't believe, i'm not going to force anyone and i have no power or any right to force anyone to do anything, you're free to do whatever you want, but what i said will happen regardless. And about "the meeting in hell", it's true that i intended to meet everyone of you in hell and remind you of everything you've said and everything you've dismissed without even caring to give it a chance.

That if i'm not actually thrown in hell with you, which is something that i'm still not sure of.

It's not a way of taking revenge by the way or feeling happy about it, but just a way to remind you that you've chosen this fate with your freewill and that i warned you during you life but you didn't listen.
OK so let's say you don't wish it upon us, you are thriving on the idea of reminding us in the afterlife of all the horrible things we've done or said, is that supposed to be better than wishing for it in this life? Because I would say it's worse.

I would not put my trust in a spiritual guide who wants to spend their time in the afterlife eternally torturing others about their past mistakes in a previous life, because to me that literally sounds like Satan, unless that's what you are.
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Re: I invite all of you to Islam

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Xexos wrote:
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Even those Alt right who are more angry than That Guy himself, when they search Islam in order to attack it, they end up converting to it instead.
Believe it or not, this is actually not a totally inaccurate claim.

What the mainstream media has often failed to mention about a lot of western Jihadi-converts, such as Monica Witt or Michaël Chiolo (who was behind the recent prison revolt at Conde-sur-Sarthe) is that these people were actually nationalists beforehand.

Chiolo was involved in the French Nationalism scene (I assume around the National Rally party and the like) before converting. Monica Witt, a USAF Intelligence Officer, converted to Islam and moved to Iran to take up a new life after long being opposed to the USA's foreign policy toward Iran.

The reason for this, is a lack of extremism on the part of most "nationalists" today. Extremism is vital in bringing about real change. When people are going to look for answers to problems imposed on them by the status quo, they can only find answers in things that entirely oppose the status quo.

If nationalists had bothered to be serious — to be extreme — people such as Witt or Chiolo would not have been lost to ideologies like Islam.

There is no way to define an "extremist" or a "moderate" unless you compare it to the status quo. A "moderate" is simply someone who is friendly to the system, they're in sync with it, and willing to work within the established norms; an "extremist" is simply someone who who is hostile to the system, their beliefs are out of sync with it, and they're ideologically unbending.

People who are tired of globo-homo, the resulting anarcho-tyranny, etc. want to rally behind something that stands firmly opposed to it; something that is unbending. If you're a "nationalist" party like the AfD or Sweden Democrats, and you decide to feign being a "moderate" so that you can win more votes and been seen as "not so bad" by the groups who oppose you, it isn't long before you've been absorbed back into the status quo and the next thing you know your "Nationalist" party is championing for gay rights across the middle east, more legal immigration, tranny bathrooms, etc.

That's NOT what people want to hear.

If these people lose faith in Nationalism, they'll instead turn to the next most extreme ideology. The trouble is, most of those other ideologies they could turn to are completely stupid and have no place in the west.

We don't need Islamists, or ancap/libertarians, and other such ideologies that are harmful to our race and society.

We need nationalists, real ones who will not capitulate ever, if we're to get people on the right path and not lose them to Abrahamic death cults, Marxism, terrorist cells, enemy propaganda and the like — we need extremists.

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