That Guy wrote: ↑
1 year ago
You're not "oppressed" simply because a particular option is not available to you. Oppression is a prolonged, cruel subjugation of someone.
Again, none of what you're saying suggests that the general consensus among Polish women is that they are unhappy with life in Poland as it pertains to women. No offense, but what you're doing here is basically the trademark of modern liberalism: Not EVERYONE is happy, therefore no one is.
Am I oppressed because I can't legally buy and do cocaine? But I really want to! It should be my personal freedom, societal consequences be damned!
I'm not sure why it's out of the realm of possibility to you that maybe women (and people in general) who live in that country aren't forced into anything, and they still have options in dating and sex, but perhaps life in Poland upholds values that urge one to actually carefully consider their choices regarding such matters, because if they choose poorly, they will have to live with the consequences instead of being absolved of them by the state.
You've brought up previously in this thread something about me not sounding like a "capitalist" but what you've confused here is libertarian and authoritarianism. You're arguing in favour of what I would say are policies that are too
I suspect that what you believe is that it's not a government's place to enforce morality? Well, no one actually believes that when you get down to brass tacks.
What I’m saying is freedom of choice is important in the society I live in.
I read a little bit about Poland since this post not enough to get into a heavy debate but enough that I question the career and financial options to women who live their as well as what happens if they are married to a man they wish to leave or divorce.
It’s from what I gather highly influenced by the Catholic Church. Not exactly a place where women are considered equals in all ways that are common to most Western modern society of this day and age at least.
I think if women have choices they will choose what they want. Simple. The ones who want kids can have them and the ones who don’t, won’t.
Like I said it seems like many can’t even make a medical decision. The abortion laws in Poland are stricter than 1960s Texas.
The cocaine comparison well we can do that with anything
Should NYC ban sugar? It’s really bad for you and proven to be so. Obesity is bad for society.
YET I was against the soda ban in NYC me ‘the liberal’.
I don’t even drink soda.
Pot is illegal in my state yet it’s ridiculous that it is. Yet I’m sure many can argue why it should remain illegal.
Not all laws are equal. Which is what you are saying with your cocain comparison.
My argument is this for my own country at least;
We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness….”
Unless you want to suggest Men only mean actual men and not women?
I know what Jason thinks
If it’s really NOT about curtailing the behavior of women and it’s about population, then we can make test tube babies. The government can employ segregates
Someone said it’s not about the quality of the life, it’s about the numbers.
I’m purposely being a little ridiculous with this suggestion to make a point, but in my opinion it’s not any less ridiculous than telling western women (specifically American womn) they have no choice what they do with their sex lives because the future of the world depends on it.