That Guy wrote: ↑
8 months ago
The Jewish narrative that Hitler supposedly wanted to exterminate slavs is not supported by any of his actions during the war.
You should open a history book or watch a documentary at some point. You're getting all of your information on Hitler from websites such as 4chan, and you're going to end up looking more and more irrational in the company of anyone
with a clue.
You've made the following, idiotic statements:
- Hitler didn't hate Slavs;
- There were no gas chambers;
- The war on the eastern front was a "petty land squabble";
- The boom of the mid 1930s would have continued to the present day;
No, no, no, and no.
You see the guys behind the fence? They starved.
Your hero wanted to kill the Jews ... and the Gypsies, and the Poles, and the Ukrainians, and so on, and also all of the communists, the homosexuals, the physically disabled, and the mentally disabled. Towards the end of the war, he also supported the mass death of German citizens.
In one of the documentaries that I watched recently, they quoted a German woman from that era. She had lost faith in Hitler. She said that Hitler didn't need to worry about feeding his family or surviving, he would probably just let tons of Germans die, and then shoot himself rather than face consequences. Well, that's what the coward did. He waited until as many as Germans as possible died, and then he committed himself. Germany lost 4.3 million lives in the second world war, and tons of its women were raped by Soviet soldiers seeking revenge. But Hitler took the easy way out and committed suicide.
Joseph Goebbels murdered all of his children at the end of the war:
Sorry bud, but your religion is a death cult.
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For those wondering, That Guy linked to Wikipedia discussing the existence of a Ukrainian division within the Nazi Army. He believes that the presence of soldiers fighting for the Axis demonstrates that the Nazis had no anti-Slavic racism.
That is obviously specious reasoning to anybody thinking at or above a high school level. I want to further argue that if the same argument were presented in a different context, with the labels changed, That Guy would himself be able to see that the argument is crap.
Regardless, with respect the actual argument. The Nazis started incorporating more non-German troops later on in the War. As is pointed out in the first paragraph
of the page that he links to, the Ukrainian division was formed in 1943. By that point, it was clear to anybody with a clue that the Axis were going to lose the war, as they had been defeated at Midway, in North Africa, and at Stalingrad, largely due to Hitler's incompetence. The Germans were desperate and so they started including more troops from groups that they considered inferior, they had some French troops, some Belgian troops, and even some Russian troops at later points in the war. The use of mercenaries is actually considered to be a typical behavior of decaying empires, and even there, the Galicians were the only Ukrainians allowed to serve.
The Ukrainians who volunteered for that division were dupes -- they thought that they might be fighting for independence. They were not. Had Germany somehow won the war, some 66% of them would have been annihilated, to make way for Lebensraum. When Hitler's second in command, Herman Goering, got to Ukraine, he said that the weak should starve to death, and that those who are strong, should be made to work, until they too were weak and then could starve to dearth.
Excerpt from a speech on Nazi plans for the Ukraine:
When Adolf Hitler spoke about the United States, it was generally – before the war at least – with admiration. And it was a question for Hitler: who will the racial inferiors be? Who will the slaves be in the German Eastern empire? And the answer that he gave, both in Mein Kampf, and in the second book, and in practice in the invasion of 1941, the answer was: the Ukrainians.
The Ukrainians were to be at the centre of a project of colonization and enslavement. The Ukrainians were to be treated as Afrikaner, or as Neger – the word was very often used, as those of you who read German documents from the war will know – by analogy with the United States. The idea was to create a slavery-driven, exterminatory, colonial regime in Eastern Europe where the centre was going to be Ukraine.
Now, you have been told many times what results from this, so let me just briefly summarize.
The purpose of the Second World War, from Hitler’s point of view, was the conquest of Ukraine. It is therefore senseless to commemorate any part of the Second World War without beginning from Ukraine. Any commemoration of the Second World War which involves the Nazi purposes – the ideological, economic, and political purposes of the Nazi regime – must begin precisely from Ukraine.
This is not only a matter of theory, this is a matter of practice. German policies, the policies that we remember, all of them focus precisely on Ukraine: The Hunger Plan, with its notion that tens of millions of people were going to starve in the winter of 1941; Generalplan Ost, with its idea that millions more people would be forcibly transported or killed in the 5, 10, or 15 years to follow, but also the final solution, Hitler’s idea of the elimination of Jews; all of these policies hung together in theory and in practice, with the idea of an invasion of the Soviet Union, the major goal of which would be the conquest of Ukraine.
https://www.eurozine.com/germans-must-r ... -own-sake/