We should absolutely be striving to meet people in real life if we can, but it is the reality that it's getting harder and that it will become harder over time. Fighting social change is kind of like pissing into a tidal wave.That Guy wrote: ↑1 month agoNothing that you say here isn't true in the general sense, and I always agree that one should base their expectation on the rule itself rather than exceptions to it, but as someone who, in recent weeks has been dating a 19-year-old European woman, 20 in a couple months. Granted, only a handful of times but...
We should actually be striving as much as possible to meet people in real life and not on dating apps in which people are generally not looking for anything serious, their egos are inflated, etc.
I met this girl at a shop I frequent. I know that I probably lucked out there, but putting myself out in public places where other white people gather and striking up conversations is how I managed to score a date. I think she could be a keeper if it stays on this track.
Those opportunities are much rarer as you say, but we can only bring it back if we make a deliberate effort.
I know that a 7-year age difference is not at all comparable to a 30+ like what Nameless is looking at, but you're not that much older than I am, and I have more in common (so far) with this girl I'm seeing than any of the millenial women I've dated in the past. I was able to tell that within minutes of meeting her for the first time.
She's "trad"; she's not a party animal but relaxed, has much the same political beliefs as I do (as far as she's let on), she's extremely-proud of her heritage, we have many of the same interests, etc.
What I'm getting at here is two important details:
• Guys like you and I, if we hope to continue our bloodlines, especially with multiple children, we have ostensibly no choice but to date younger. I'm already at the point where I'd turn my nose up at a 27/28 woman for this reason. It's a very painful reminder of wasted youth and stupid decisions in the past.
• The implication in your post, taken from the truth of present western society of course, is that there should be generational differences; as if the differences in mindset, goals, etc. between generations are supposed to be different. I don't think that they're supposed to be.
In fact, Nameless' generation was the first that made this massive rebellion and departure from the tradition of their forefathers. They — with plenty of encouragement from external forces — opted to abandon the lifestyle, path, values, etc. and lived lives of hedonistic materialism.
and that's the thing: How do you define what the generational differences are if not by material consumerism? Is it because they watch different TV shows and listen to different music? Is it because they have different political views? Is it because they can go binge drinking more often and for longer?
Perhaps maybe the generations aren't supposed to separated at all? Maybe it was fucked up around the 1960s? Maybe every generations goal, as it was before, should be to perpetuate their people, customs, culture, etc.?
Aside from being able-bodied, I just can't see what is supposed to make, or why generations are supposed to so different.
Now, you're of course completely right that Nameless would NOT have anything in common with most of these young women, wouldn't be able to keep up with them, and so forth — but I don't actually think that's the reason he's likely to fail.
I think it comes down to "He's an old man". He would be dead long before her, children he might have with her are at an increased risk of all kinds of problems, he won't be around for much longer and able-bodied to properly help raise them, I don't think Nameless want's kids anyway nor would it be wise at his age, and he will still not be sexually-attractive to most young women anyway.
And at the end of it all: We just don't need old men taking women from the younger generations all the time. We should be avoiding that as much as we can as a society — those young women should ideally being married off to men around their age. It's just that, we're so fucked up right now, that this is difficult.
Nameless would do well to just find a woman closer to his age, and keep her around. Something I've learned is that it's not about finding the hottest woman you can. Looks-wise, you just need to find someone who is not objectionable and has a good personality to make a good wife and mother. On the path he is (still) on, he will never find lasting happiness.
How many children do you want?
I agree with you that older men going with much younger women is bad for society. It's bad for the women of that age bracket, bad for younger women, and bad for those younger women who are likely to waste the last 20+ years of their lives as nurses. That said, it's extremely rare, so it's a minor harm, whatever.
The 1960s were not the first generation to rebel, for example it shows up in Shakespeare. However they did live in a period of rapid economic and social change. Fir example, in the past century median lifespans have increased from 40 to 80, that will obviously have an impact. Back in 1900, women spent ten hours a day on house chores. We now have things like washing machins, dryers, dishwashers, etc etc that liberate a lot of time. That will change people too.
The equivalent of you dating a 19 year old is me dating a 25-30 year old. It wasn't that big a difference when it happened recently, that said it's harder to pull off. Those women would prefer not to date someone older than 30.
The brain continues to mature up to age 25. It's conceivable that I could match with a 19 year old, bit it's unlikely. To be honest I find most of them annoying, but that is because I am old and cynical. I wouldn't go younger than 25.