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Women and the ideal body shape

Post by Guest-2 » 1 year ago

https://www.uni-regensburg.de/Fakultaet ... /figur.htm

I’ve been working out a lot so I took some measurements.

The thing about me that Is no matter what I weigh or size so far in my life I have what is considered a good/ideal hip to waste ratio.
*(I was never obese I’m sure that has to affect it negatively)

At the moment it is .73 when I was at my slimmest it was .66
When I was heavier it was .75

I think this is probably why I never had an issue with men finding me attractive at various sizes. Of course I’m talking generally I don’t mean all men at every size.

Anyway when I was looking up the charts I found this article. Thought you guys may find it interesting. It also talks about the different socio eco influence on body attraction.

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Came to Vietnam a couple of days ago.

Vietnamese girls are ugly to average. Not even comparable with Thais or Mixed hapa.
The probable reasons for western men liking Vietnamese women is that they have that teen type physique that many men prefer and that they are also responsive to their advances unlike many European and Latina women.

Another downside to dating them - as i have seen vicariously through friends - is that they are very high maintence. They want to see you almost every day. They want to go out for dinner most nights (you pay). They are naturally jealous and suspicious*.

*this is to generalise and i'm sure not all of them are total ballaches.

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The probable reasons for western men liking Vietnamese women is that they have that teen type physique that many men prefer and that they are also responsive to their advances unlike many European and Latina women.

Another downside to dating them - as i have seen vicariously through friends - is that they are very high maintence. They want to see you almost every day. They want to go out for dinner most nights (you pay). They are naturally jealous and suspicious*.

*this is to generalise and i'm sure not all of them are total ballaches.
I think you mean pre-teen or tween body. Many teenagers have fully developed boobs and hips.

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I think you mean pre-teen or tween body. Many teenagers have fully developed boobs and hips.
I'd say the standard womans body here is the body of a 14 to 16 year old back in the west. They have chest and a bum, albeit small, but they have narrow hips and low body fat (which is becoming more rare in our respective countries).

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I'd say the standard womans body here is the body of a 14 to 16 year old back in the west. They have chest and a bum, albeit small, but they have narrow hips and low body fat (which is becoming more rare in our respective countries).
So it’s your opinion that men who are attracted to Asian women idealize a western woman’s 14 to 16 year old body? Not a 17-19 year old?

And you think these men idealized a narrow hips on a woman vs a small waiste to flared hips?

There is a huge difference between slender women and narrow hips. I’ve seen ballerinas who are petite but still have a sexy hip to waste ratio just do to their genetic body.

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Johnson wrote:
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I'd say the standard womans body here is the body of a 14 to 16 year old back in the west. They have chest and a bum, albeit small, but they have narrow hips and low body fat (which is becoming more rare in our respective countries).
https://www.tremr.com/Duck-Rabbit/asian ... z3IqSJOcb4

"Researchers say they may have identified a genetic mutation characteristic of East Asians in particular responsible for thicker hair shafts, characteristic teeth, a larger number of sweat glands, and, perhaps most controversially, smaller breasts. . . .The gene is known as EDAR, and a particular mutation of it occurs among East Asians. About 93 percent of Han Chinese carry it, 70 percent of those in Japan and Thailand, as well as 60-90 percent of Native Americans."


Petite type girls are cute , and along with that usually comes smaller boobs and ass. It's about the overall package not just boobs or ass alone. Although i'd say the face is most of where attractiveness comes from.

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So it’s your opinion that men who are attracted to Asian women idealize a western woman’s 14 to 16 year old body? Not a 17-19 year old?

And you think these men idealized a narrow hips on a woman vs a small waiste to flared hips?

There is a huge difference between slender women and narrow hips. I’ve seen ballerinas who are petite but still have a sexy hip to waste ratio just do to their genetic body.
Yep, I think a larger proportion of men like teen physiques and I believe porn trends also support this notion.

And to note; this isnt my preference. I've long said that I prefer chubbier women but i also acknowledge that i am an anomolaly in my preference.

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Yep, I think a larger proportion of men like teen physiques and I believe porn trends also support this notion.

And to note; this isnt my preference. I've long said that I prefer chubbier women but i also acknowledge that i am an anomolaly in my preference.
14 year old teens who haven’t fully developed yet?

I disagree. Ther are some for sure but I wouldn’t categorizes that as a ‘larger’ portion. I think we’ve had this debate scientifically on the other forum about hip to waste ratio and men’s ideal.

Also, not the porns I watch. The women are slim but developed.


From ask men

There is a magic number when it comes to the ratio between a woman's waist and hips that men find most exciting. In the Western world, that number is 0.7, which means that the circumference of a woman's waist is 70% the circumference of her hips. In other cultures, slightly lower or slightly higher ratios have been found to be attractive to men from those cultures. From an evolutionary perspective, a ratio under 0.6 may signal hips that are not well suited to childbirth, and a ratio in excess of 0.8 could suggest fertility difficulties related to being overweight.



Asian women and most younger teens don’t have .7

And they better not bring them back to the states cause can go south quick.

https://www.nature.com/articles/nutd20112

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Hairblues wrote:
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14 year old teens who haven’t fully developed yet?

I disagree. Ther are some for sure but I wouldn’t categorizes that as a ‘larger’ portion. I think we’ve had this debate scientifically on the other forum about hip to waste ratio and men’s ideal.

Also, not the porns I watch. The women are slim but developed.


From ask men

There is a magic number when it comes to the ratio between a woman's waist and hips that men find most exciting. In the Western world, that number is 0.7, which means that the circumference of a woman's waist is 70% the circumference of her hips. In other cultures, slightly lower or slightly higher ratios have been found to be attractive to men from those cultures. From an evolutionary perspective, a ratio under 0.6 may signal hips that are not well suited to childbirth, and a ratio in excess of 0.8 could suggest fertility difficulties related to being overweight.



Asian women and most younger teens don’t have .7

And they better not bring them back to the states cause can go south quick.

https://www.nature.com/articles/nutd20112
Perhaps my sample group is skwered as i live in Asia and see men complain if a woman has oversided hips or thighs, or god forbid, a little tummy. It may just be that the men who prefer this youthful physique just come here to get it whereas the lovers of a fuller bodied women stay in the west.

Its nice that there are variety in tastes though with both men and women. Ultimatley it doesnt matter that much, and truth be told, most men just get what they can get.

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Johnson wrote:
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Yep, I think a larger proportion of men like teen physiques and I believe porn trends also support this notion.

And to note; this isnt my preference. I've long said that I prefer chubbier women but i also acknowledge that i am an anomolaly in my preference.
I like rotund women.
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Johnson wrote:
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Perhaps my sample group is skwered as i live in Asia and see men complain if a woman has oversided hips or thighs, or god forbid, a little tummy. It may just be that the men who prefer this youthful physique just come here to get it whereas the lovers of a fuller bodied women stay in the west.

Its nice that there are variety in tastes though with both men and women. Ultimatley it doesnt matter that much, and truth be told, most men just get what they can get.
Fuller? Oh you mean normally developed healthy weight slim Caucasian women.

Perhaps my sample group is skwered as i live in Asia

Uh, Ya think?
Moving to a 3rd world country from most western parts of the world over a female body type preference is pretty extreme. I would also say the sample size is teeny to form an opinion based on for what most western men find ideal.

Again, I’m not talking about full or fat or even thick women.

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I like rotund women.
We aren’t talking about rotund women.
I’m not a fan of the big is beautiful movement. It’s not healthy or attractive generally speaking. Some outliers.

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Post by Johnson » 5 months ago

White women are naturally heavier and taller than Asian women - that's what I mean by larger or heftier or however we should term it.



Again, i like how tastes vary. I like that some men like fat women, some like skinny, and some like somthing in the middle.

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Johnson wrote:
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White women are naturally heavier and taller than Asian women - that's what I mean by larger or heftier or however we should term it.

Again, i like how tastes vary. I like that some men like fat women, some like skinny, and some like somthing in the middle.

Again, it’s not about size. You either are too lazy or too stubborn to get the scientific point I’m making. We are talking body shape.

If an Asian is a size 2 and 5’2 and a Caucasian is size 2 and 5’2 it’s mkre likely that the western man will prefer the body shape of the Caucasian.

You also keep making blanket statements without any facts.

White women aren’t ‘naturally’ heavier than Asian women. They may become so (same as Asian American women) due to poor diet and lack of exercise but white women come from a lot of areas and some are very small boned.
And I’ve seen Asian women who are as tall if not taller than me and I’m not short.
I’m sure this depends where in Asia they come from.

We are talking about body shape and what most western men idealize.

You made the statement that larger portion of western men like an underdeveloped western Caucasian female body of a 14-16 year old vs a 16-19 year old.
Based on research, this isn’t true.
We established men like slim and fit.
We are discussing body shape. Not size.

I’m done with this conversation because this is the usual, Johnson playing dumb.
You are so good at it but it’s just not necessary.

Yes some people have varied taste but we are speaking in general what is the shared ideal based on western culture.

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Post by Johnson » 5 months ago

It's kind of pointless discussion anyway. What men find attractive isn't that interesting.

The basis of why I say that men prefer those skinny physiques is because of the popularity of teen porn and that hordes of men come to Asia to sleep with these tiny Asian women.

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Afro_Vacancy wrote:
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Mostly though, posting on this forum and debating ideas is like playing chess or pickup basketball.
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