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Post by Johnt1997 » 2 months ago

Currently watching the 40 year old virgin on Sky Go. It got me thinking about virginity and what it must feel like to still be a virgin at an age where 90% of your peers are not; with losing your virginity being such a big thing in Western culture it must feel very lonely and humiliating

At what age do you think male virginity(with girls it's different because they can get it when they want really) becomes unusual or embarrassing for a person, in your opinion?

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Post by Char » 2 months ago

If you hit 30, you'll become a wizard.

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Post by Johnt1997 » 2 months ago

Char wrote: 2 months ago If you hit 30, you'll become a wizard.
Are you speaking from experience?

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Personally I lost my virginity at 14 and a half and it was around the common age for young Australian men to lose it. At least that was the feeling.

I'd say any guy around 17 and over still being a virgin was bordering on comical.
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Post by koolaidshade » 2 months ago

if you're a monk and don't fap at all then its respectable.

however if you're like der coomer and fap, not acceptable

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Post by Johnson » 2 months ago

I was 18 and I felt like a weirdo having sex so late at the time (in retrospect thats insane).

I was too shy as a teen to really make a move.

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Johnson wrote: 2 months ago I was 18 and I felt like a weirdo having sex so late at the time (in retrospect thats insane).

I was too shy as a teen to really make a move.
This is where Australian youth drinking culture helped me out.
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Post by Char » 2 months ago

Johnt1997 wrote: 2 months ago Are you speaking from experience?
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Post by Johnt1997 » 2 months ago

I was 17 about to turn 18 which felt about right for me. People in my school were having sex in first year of HS (year 8) which seems crazy to me now. At the time though you feel bad for not having any experience

in my opinion you don't want to get into your 20s as a virgin, 25 is the max cutoff

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Char wrote: 2 months ago Image
Haven't been to this forum in a long time but you know life today everything fighting for your attention and only so many hours in the day.

At 44 I guess I've reached 'wizard' status. Studying the lives of saints there seems to be a divine power in celibacy. Quite different than today of course where it's not cool to be a virgin. Gotta lose that virginity ASAP so not to be thought of as undesirable or a loser - nice trick of the devil. Sadly, thanks to smart phones kids are watching porn, they find out the hard way its not like that in real life.

I can tell you at my age I still have woman streaming my way continuously, like I'm in my 20's. As young as 16 and as old as 50+.
Recently an 18, 22, 23 and 28 year old and conclude that it does seem to make you magnetic even though they don't know exactly what it is.

More importantly the so called 'loneliness' doesn't seem to get to me. Maybe this is part n parcel with wizard status.

My friend got me an expensive bottle of tequila with the deal that we would crack it open on my wedding night or drink it when I'm 50. Well here's to either reaching 'wraith' status or cracking open that bottle of tequila.

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Johnt1997 wrote: 2 months ago I was 17 about to turn 18 which felt about right for me. People in my school were having sex in first year of HS (year 8) which seems crazy to me now. At the time though you feel bad for not having any experience

in my opinion you don't want to get into your 20s as a virgin, 25 is the max cutoff
25 is the max for what? From my experience when a girl suspects you're a virgin she works even harder to be the first to crack you.
Women are so mysterious and domineering at times. Full of games too I might add.

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Johnt1997 wrote: 2 months ago At what age do you think male virginity(with girls it's different because they can get it when they want really) becomes unusual or embarrassing for a person, in your opinion?
This is one of these concerns that is rooted in the degradation of society but also is somewhat of an inversion of the "at what age does hairloss no longer matter?" question.

The answer is that if you're attractive, or at at least to the woman you have sex with, it doesn't matter.

I fell for this trap when I was younger too, desperate to get with whatever reasonably-cute girl would get with me when I was 19 or so and stopped being a long-haired freak. But it really is a trap that essentially is responsible for the divorce rate being so high. Not solely responsible, but unfaithful women (and men) are a very big problem today and the "you need to be 'experienced' for her/him to want you" and reframing sexual promiscuity as a good thing is largely to blame.

We know that, the more sexual partners a person (especially women) have, the less likely they are to remain committed.


The fact is that you can learn all you ever need to about sex from one woman (or man, if you're woman) in your life.

It's also actually pretty cucked and gay for a man to be like "Oh, I need to be tunnel buddies with at least X number of men before I get with a woman".

I also don't believe that most women, who aren't whores themselves, WANT their future husband and father of their children to have dipped in other women before her.

If you do want "experienced™" partners, then most likely, you're a bit of a cuck. It's really fucked up, honestly.

But again, women don't care if Chad has never had sex before at age 30. They just want his sauce, and if they're the first (and only) to claim it, most of them will be happy with that.

Women love having exclusive access to a man they like and vice versa.

It seems to be that men are more concerned with whether or not their male peers are virgins (as a dominance/hierarchy establishment) of who is the most desirable mate to the women.

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That Guy wrote: 1 month ago This is one of these concerns that is rooted in the degradation of society but also is somewhat of an inversion of the "at what age does hairloss no longer matter?" question.

The answer is that if you're attractive, or at at least to the woman you have sex with, it doesn't matter.

I fell for this trap when I was younger too, desperate to get with whatever reasonably-cute girl would get with me when I was 19 or so and stopped being a long-haired freak. But it really is a trap that essentially is responsible for the divorce rate being so high. Not solely responsible, but unfaithful women (and men) are a very big problem today and the "you need to be 'experienced' for her/him to want you" and reframing sexual promiscuity as a good thing is largely to blame.

We know that, the more sexual partners a person (especially women) have, the less likely they are to remain committed.


The fact is that you can learn all you ever need to about sex from one woman (or man, if you're woman) in your life.

It's also actually pretty cucked and gay for a man to be like "Oh, I need to be tunnel buddies with at least X number of men before I get with a woman".

I also don't believe that most women, who aren't whores themselves, WANT their future husband and father of their children to have dipped in other women before her.

If you do want "experienced™" partners, then most likely, you're a bit of a cuck. It's really fucked up, honestly.

But again, women don't care if Chad has never had sex before at age 30. They just want his sauce, and if they're the first (and only) to claim it, most of them will be happy with that.

Women love having exclusive access to a man they like and vice versa.

It seems to be that men are more concerned with whether or not their male peers are virgins (as a dominance/hierarchy establishment) of who is the most desirable mate to the women.
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Johnt1997 wrote: 2 months ago Currently watching the 40 year old virgin on Sky Go. It got me thinking about virginity and what it must feel like to still be a virgin at an age where 90% of your peers are not; with losing your virginity being such a big thing in Western culture it must feel very lonely and humiliating

At what age do you think male virginity(with girls it's different because they can get it when they want really) becomes unusual or embarrassing for a person, in your opinion?
I think it depends on when their male peers lost their virginity. I was nineteen when I lost mine, and most of my friends were around
seventeen.

Some people are just introverted, including guys. There's nothing with that, but society does not really accept introverted men,
so most men get therapy for it.

To be honest, I even think it's weird for women to be virgins in their thirties. To me, that means there's something wrong
with them mentally. Or it means they are just so physically ugly, nobody wants to sleep with them. Let's be honest.

I took a college course in sex, and I was very horny in my early twenties. I was dissappointed, because most women were so
ugly, that I would rather have sex with an animal, as long as it had a vagina.

Most women, even sexually conservative women, lose their virginity in their twenties.

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Marki wrote: 1 month ago Studying the lives of saints there seems to be a divine power in celibacy. Quite different than today of course where it's not cool to be a virgin. Gotta lose that virginity ASAP so not to be thought of as undesirable or a loser - nice trick of the devil. Sadly, thanks to smart phones kids are watching porn, they find out the hard way its not like that in real life.

I can tell you at my age I still have woman streaming my way continuously, like I'm in my 20's. As young as 16 and as old as 50+.
Recently an 18, 22, 23 and 28 year old and conclude that it does seem to make you magnetic even though they don't know exactly what it is.

More importantly the so called 'loneliness' doesn't seem to get to me. Maybe this is part n parcel with wizard status.
Interesting. What saints are you reading? I recently went through the sayings of Saint Anthony the Great compiled in the Philokalia. I thought it was a great Christian take on stoicism.

Yeah this idea that acquiring power (accumulating as many lays as possible) is more valuable than trying to acquire virtue is a trick of this fallen (modern) world. Even if you become successful in the eyes of the world, you quickly realize that you will never have enough. No amount of lays, "casual" sex, power etc. manages to fill that Christ-shaped hole in your heart.

Where do you meet those women? Why don't you give it a shot with one of them?
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That Guy wrote: 1 month ago It seems to be that men are more concerned with whether or not their male peers are virgins (as a dominance/hierarchy establishment) of who is the most desirable mate to the women.
That's not entirely true. In my uni those stuck up feminist bitches in their mid 20s made fun of girls who are virgins calling them inferior. The older a woman is the more sexual partners she had. Then people are surprised when we have threads on HairLossTalk impact section where some guy says that he used to date a girl whose sexual partner count is 40 xD.

And one more thing. Tinder is full of guys who are looking for one night stands and women who seek a relationship. See the pattern here. Women want to tame the Chad and put him into a cage that is called marriage. They don't give a shit if the man is a total player, it is only a plus. They just want to be the ones to tame the Chad and end up with nothing, but they don't mind and their quest continues with another Chad. If the woman eventually fully tames the Chad then everything falls apart and life becomes boring for her and then we have divorce rapes.

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