JasonStatham wrote: ↑
10 months ago
If the most important thing for you is to get married, why not join a church community? You also say that you dont have friends. A church community could give you an instant opportunity to meet people.
Why everyone just uses Tinder for dating? Why? Why is it so hard to get out and approach a woman?
How do you look from 1-10? and be honest. If you aren't AT LEAST a 6 you should delete Tinder and the other Apps TODAY.
Day game isn't a myth. Approaching women in Bars and Clubs isn't a Myth. It just takes work and 95% of men won't do that and will eventually settle down with a fatty or a single mother. It's your destiny too. I had this conversation a lot with Arjen and we both know people that are horrible with women and they eventually settled down with a waaaaaaaaaay less attractive women because of the fear of being alone. That for me sounds like hell to wake up every fucking day next to a Goblin (no offence).
If you want to know how to meet women and everything around it, buy this book:
https://www.rooshvstore.com/?utm_medium ... _source=rv
I read the book as well and it gives you everything you need to know. It's a big book but its entertaining to read and it also gives you advice when in a relationship.
I should write a book with the title: "Tinder isn't for ugly guys" - 10 Ways to still get a hottie.
I agree with your first suggestion (joining a church community).
And now it's time for a brand-new episode of my F(red) pill series:
For Tinder and other dating apps, they can be used efficiently at a little cost even by the average guy: just spam the hell out of the apps, cast a wide net and see what you catch. This is the normal dating dynamic and people need to understand this, women are picky as hell no matter the environment and it's never going to be easy unless you look like a male model, and even then, it's not like you'll be the only choice in town.
Day game, night game, mass-approaching women in general is dangerous. I'm not kidding here, especially for someone like OP who already seems neurotic and introverted. If you think those rejections don't come with a cost and you can just ignore them or rationalize them away, you're deluding yourself. You can see that on the RooshV forum by how many times they have to state that they either don't care about rejection, or by the number of threads where members ask how not to care about rejection.
It's a common mistake to believe that because something is not real in the material sense, it doesn't really exist anywhere but in your mind. Oh rejection is real, just like your personality make-up is real, when a woman tells you "you're not worthy of propagating your genes!", you'll feel it, and it's going to hurt like a bitch. At least it was the case for me, and I believe that the people who would truly don't care are quite rare.
The remedy to that is to wait for signs, I know it's not politically correct to say, and I know exactly why. An above average guy like me will get signs from roughly 1 in 10 women, so you can lower that bar considerably for average guys, and they just won't believe that it would be so rare, that way more women must secretly like them but won't show them, that if only they tried their luck, they would improve their success rate, if only they had the balls to approach en masse.
I'm sorry but that's not going to happen, buddy. This is a war, and war requires strategy, careful planning and that you pay attention. You don't leave the tranches all guns blazing hoping that you're going to be efficient and that you won't get shot.
Now about RooshV:
http://aaronsleazy.blogspot.com/2012/09 ... oesnt.html
He's a fraud, and anyone with some experience should be able to realize so by taking into account his looks, his demeanor and most importantly his constant whining and blaming women for not being able to have sex with them. Men who are successful with women just don't do that. I know I engaged in that at the time that I was dating less, or rather thought that I was entitled to better quality women. That stopped when I took a scientific approach to dating and realized that it was not as bad as I thought, it was way worse. That's why I'll keep the war analogy, and that certainly doesn't stop once you're in a relationship, if anything, that's when the real battle begins.
RooshV wouldn't know much about efficient dating and much less about relationships. His book is most likely filled with narcissistic power games that I would firmly advise against. I used to read his content and most of his advice is about abusing your power as a man, about dominating your partner, about how you don't owe them anything and you can just cheat on them because well, as a poor male victim, you better get them before they get you. I used to follow this advice like an idiot dating multiple girls at the same time also thinking that it was harmless for myself and for them, but it's just wrong. Your girlfriend (I know, cuck!) is supposed to be your equal and narcissistic power games to get what you want should be off the table. If you can't get a girlfriend and keep her while remaining truthful and fair, you shouldn't be with her, you have failed.
Anyway, to me, the reference when it comes to dating advice actually comes from a dead website, that thankfully can still be found here:
https://web.archive.org/web/20130306010 ... nmyth.com/
It won't be what you want to hear but it works, and it will make you aware of the constraints there are to dating like you can't imagine, the true red pill. Once you've integrated this advice and managed to find a girl, I believe Jordan Peterson has the best advice on what to do next, and even during the dating process for that matter. You can also turn to evolutionary psychology and listen to David Buss for example:
But whatever you do, do not rely on the advice of notorious PUA guru scammers who probably not only have less idea about what they're talking about than you do, but will also cause more confusion in your mind. Stick to science, common sense and the truth, even if it sounds horrible, because reality is often not as bad as you think, it's worse.