Topical Finasteride, progesterone and shedding

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Re: 2017 Topical Finasteride/Progesterone picture

Post by Hairblues » Sat Aug 25, 2018 8:59 pm

rclark wrote:
Wed Aug 22, 2018 1:48 am
In some scientific papers, Progesterone causes type II diabetes (or can cause it).

http://jme.endocrinology-journals.org/c ... 9.full.pdf

Eventually I will have to taper down.

My personality is introverted, and I have to say, that Progesterone doesn't help
it at all.
Once I go through menopause I am definitely switching to oral finasteride. I haven’t started yet. My time of month is still normal. My mom was over 50. My sister is close to 50 and is in peri. (No hair issues except she gets periodic shedding and it grows back like a TE maybe I have this in conjunction with androgenetic alopecia)

I just get afraid of messing with my hormones until then. Except progrsterone. I’m going to talk to my hair loss doc sometime this Fall about it. I’m going ask theoretical opinion about RU58841 also.

I’m doing okay but I’m just super aware and I like to be proactive.

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Re: Topical Finasteride, progesterone and shedding

Post by Marki » Mon Aug 27, 2018 3:39 pm

rclark wrote:
Sat Aug 25, 2018 5:15 pm
Hormones definitely do have a negative effect on hair. Most
of my hairloss was in my twenties, when I had a lot more testosterone/
DHT than I do know.

It's too late for my scalp to become Bonjouvi status.
Lindsey Buckingham status is possible though.

lindsey_buckingham.jpg

Unfortunately my hairline has expired. I can get density
back on my vertex area, but that's it.

Buckingham was smart about his transplant. He only did
the parts that he had to "get by".

When you see him in interviews now, he has a symmetrical
hairline. And it's thick because he didn't "over extend" his transplant.

And I'm happy with Norwood three, as I am close to fifty. If I had
Norwood four or higher in my twenties or thirties, I would
of gotten a transplant to take care of it.
Perhaps an older Bonjovi then might still be in the cards. Always amazed this guy as a rocker through all these years is still married to his high school sweet heart
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Re: Topical Finasteride, progesterone and shedding

Post by rclark » Tue Aug 28, 2018 1:36 am

It amazes me to, that he didn't have a prenuptial agreement.

I met her in the early 1990s, in a family outing with other rock stars wives
(a "baptism" party).

She's wasn't good looking in person. That said, she was hotter than
the other rock star wives that age.

She looks better in that picture, compared to other ones. She definitely had
plastic surgery done since then.

Jon looks like he is 75 years old, although he's actually only 56 now.
He doesn't dye his hair, or anything. To be honest, he has better density,
but he looks old and tired.

Then again, I'm sure he probably has to.

Everybody told me she was "stuck on herself", but at least not
that day, she seems very "down to earth" though. (People that
went to high school with her told me that).

Jon looks like a grand father these days though.

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Re: Topical Finasteride, progesterone and shedding

Post by Marki » Tue Aug 28, 2018 4:55 pm

rclark wrote:
Tue Aug 28, 2018 1:36 am
It amazes me to, that he didn't have a prenuptial agreement.

I met her in the early 1990s, in a family outing with other rock stars wives
(a "baptism" party).

She's wasn't good looking in person. That said, she was hotter than
the other rock star wives that age.

She looks better in that picture, compared to other ones. She definitely had
plastic surgery done since then.

Jon looks like he is 75 years old, although he's actually only 56 now.
He doesn't dye his hair, or anything. To be honest, he has better density,
but he looks old and tired.

Then again, I'm sure he probably has to.

Everybody told me she was "stuck on herself", but at least not
that day, she seems very "down to earth" though. (People that
went to high school with her told me that).

Jon looks like a grand father these days though.
Prenup - maybe he wasn't rich and famous at the time so had nothing to lose.

He doesn't look too bad in that photo - think it's fairly recent. Other than teeth whitening maybe even dental work,
which as a side note I think looks funny (fake) on aging people - just doesn't match their aging face. Probably makes teeth glow at night too.

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Re: Topical Finasteride, progesterone and shedding

Post by Hairblues » Wed Aug 29, 2018 1:38 am

Marki wrote:
Tue Aug 28, 2018 4:55 pm
Prenup - maybe he wasn't rich and famous at the time so had nothing to lose.

He doesn't look too bad in that photo - think it's fairly recent. Other than teeth whitening maybe even dental work,
which as a side note I think looks funny (fake) on aging people - just doesn't match their aging face. Probably makes teeth glow at night too.
He used to go out with Diane Lane. So he didn’t marry her right out of HS he went back to her after famous.
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Re: Topical Finasteride, progesterone and shedding

Post by Hairblues » Fri Aug 31, 2018 11:17 pm

What’s the down side for women and dutasteride? Outside of pregnancy (not having kids at this age so it’s moot)

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Re: Topical Finasteride, progesterone and shedding

Post by rclark » Sat Sep 01, 2018 2:39 am

Here is a more recent picture of him. Look how old he looks with his gray hair.
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Re: Topical Finasteride, progesterone and shedding

Post by rclark » Mon Sep 03, 2018 3:09 am

Hairblues wrote:
Fri Aug 31, 2018 11:17 pm
What’s the down side for women and dutasteride? Outside of pregnancy (not having kids at this age so it’s moot)
Haven't heard anything negative about it. I don't use it, but there are a lot
of guys who do.

I think the dosage is 0.5 milligrams, but women can probably go
a lot higher (I would imagine).

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Re: 2017 Topical Finasteride/Progesterone picture

Post by rclark » Mon Sep 03, 2018 3:40 am

Hairblues wrote:
Sat Aug 25, 2018 8:59 pm
Once I go through menopause I am definitely switching to oral finasteride. I haven’t started yet. My time of month is still normal. My mom was over 50. My sister is close to 50 and is in peri. (No hair issues except she gets periodic shedding and it grows back like a TE maybe I have this in conjunction with androgenetic alopecia)

I just get afraid of messing with my hormones until then. Except progrsterone. I’m going to talk to my hair loss doc sometime this Fall about it. I’m going ask theoretical opinion about RU58841 also.

I’m doing okay but I’m just super aware and I like to be proactive.
Have you ever tried Hasson and Wong dosages? (.25% or 2.5 milligrams equivalent of oral)?

The reason I say this is because there is a Florida hair surgeon who prescribes that amount, combined
with five percent Minoxodil.

I never tried him, so I don't know if he is a fraud or not.

He is in Florida. But I think he also does online prescriptions, so that won't
be a bottleneck to receiving it.

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Re: 2017 Topical Finasteride/Progesterone picture

Post by Hairblues » Mon Sep 03, 2018 7:10 am

rclark wrote:
Mon Sep 03, 2018 3:40 am
Have you ever tried Hasson and Wong dosages? (.25% or 2.5 milligrams equivalent of oral)?

The reason I say this is because there is a Florida hair surgeon who prescribes that amount, combined
with five percent Minoxodil.

I never tried him, so I don't know if he is a fraud or not.

He is in Florida. But I think he also does online prescriptions, so that won't
be a bottleneck to receiving it.
I think mine is actually higher (Wesley) it’s in alcohol vehicle if that makes a difference. Like a spray.

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Re: Topical Finasteride, progesterone and shedding

Post by Marki » Tue Sep 04, 2018 5:02 pm

rclark wrote:
Sat Sep 01, 2018 2:39 am
Here is a more recent picture of him. Look how old he looks with his gray hair.

Jon-Bon-Jovi.jpg
Ya looks like dht is trying to ravage that forelock, if that goes its all over for any coverage or comb over at the front.

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Re: Topical Finasteride, progesterone and shedding

Post by Hairblues » Thu Sep 06, 2018 6:28 pm

I saw some studies of dutasteride for women with bad PMS (it’s actually really severe PMs but I forgot the medical term)

Anyway they only use women who are not intending to have pregnancy in 6 month period.

Besides all that, I’m really curious for myself. (Still normal periods BUT not having kids at the age even if I wanted to, which I don’t)

I was afraid the dutasteride would mess up my time of month because Spiro certainly did rather quickly.

If it doesn’t negatively interfere with cycle, I might consider this drug orally

I’m curious. Has anyone tried it topically? Why or why not?

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Re: Topical Finasteride, progesterone and shedding

Post by Hairblues » Fri Sep 07, 2018 4:27 pm

Okay so I need a name for the bi polar feeling of hair loss.

It’s getting thinner

It’s thickening up?

No no it’s getting thinner..

Anyway I get periodic shedding over the years on meds

I have been shedding more little hairs since the spring..(hard to recall exact)

I’ve felt I lost some ground

Well today I took a shower and brushed out my wet hair and i parted it and it looked a bit better (which this is the daily bi polar of hair loss I’m taking about when you medicate I’m sure some of you know what I mean)

So I checked my magnifying mirror (something I used to do daily in 2016 time period but now only do occasionally)

I think it looks a little denser. And I’m seeing an army of short hairs that may be thicker in diameter.
Of course it’s way too soon to be sure..I’ve been fooled before.

I’m thinking keep doing what I’m doing..give it a few months. Take a pic. Compare it to my before/after pics I have from earlier. I’m pretty good getting same angle, part and lighting.

My question is whose really good with this? I don’t want to post on thread but I wouldn’t mind sharing with a few privately to get an idea if I’m getting better, worse or staying the same.

If I’m holding ground I think that’s good..if I’m loseing I want to adjust what I’m doing medically. If getting better well I will do a happy dance.

Does anyone who treats medicine get periodic shedding with improvement? I know some have on HairLossTalk in past cant recall who.

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Re: Topical Finasteride, progesterone and shedding

Post by Hairblues » Fri Sep 21, 2018 3:09 pm

Okay my hair looks like it’s slightly thickening or increasing slightly in density in the front where I was hit the hardest. Definitely NOT a miracle but my point is I think I had turn over for healthier caliber folicles.

I’m going to see how it goes over the next few weeks.
I just notice when I’m pulling it back off my face in a bun, im seeing less ‘light’ areas just looks darker. Hair color is same so I think it’s better caliber hairs coming in. I still can’t part in middle without a product like hair fibers (which is NOT a big deal, it’s more flattering to my face on side anyway, this is just how I judge my progress)

I will definitely in private do some time line pics.

I only use topicals finasteride, Spiro and minix. It’s a year of finasteride. It’s a high concentration. 2 years the rest.

I was taking iron pills but stopped. I should start taking them again but I’m trying to lose weight and for some reason taking the iron 4x a day is annoying with food.

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Re: Topical Finasteride, progesterone and shedding

Post by rclark » Sun Sep 23, 2018 2:56 am

Hairblues wrote:
Fri Sep 21, 2018 3:09 pm
Okay my hair looks like it’s slightly thickening or increasing slightly in density in the front where I was hit the hardest. Definitely NOT a miracle but my point is I think I had turn over for healthier caliber folicles.

I’m going to see how it goes over the next few weeks.
I just notice when I’m pulling it back off my face in a bun, im seeing less ‘light’ areas just looks darker. Hair color is same so I think it’s better caliber hairs coming in. I still can’t part in middle without a product like hair fibers (which is NOT a big deal, it’s more flattering to my face on side anyway, this is just how I judge my progress)

I will definitely in private do some time line pics.

I only use topicals finasteride, Spiro and minix. It’s a year of finasteride. It’s a high concentration. 2 years the rest.

I was taking iron pills but stopped. I should start taking them again but I’m trying to lose weight and for some reason taking the iron 4x a day is annoying with food.
Did Spiro actually help your hair grow back?

I'm just curious. I'm never going to take it because I am male, and I heard it has
dangerous side effects for men.

That said, I also read that it was the best thing for females with androgen alopecia.

Is that true, in your experience?

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