Topical finasteride, progesterone and shedding

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Re: Topical finasteride, progesterone and shedding

Post by rclark » 11 months ago

kj6723 wrote:
11 months ago
Are there any actual good studies on using topical progesterone to treat male pattern baldness? Almost everything I’ve seen on it seems to be anecdotal reports and speculation due to progesterone’s relationship to hair growth and dht
Not on topical Progesterone. There was one on hydroxy Progesterone, five men actually regrew hair (out of ten).

I thought you meant topical Finasteride.

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Re: Topical finasteride, progesterone and shedding

Post by rclark » 11 months ago

Here is an interesting article on female hair loss, interesting but not really useful (because it
just gives causes of androgen alopecia in women, no solutions).

This is the same sight that I cannot find the hydroxy Progesterone article on, because it was
made around 1987 (when Minoxidil first came out).

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5419033/

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Re: Topical finasteride, progesterone and shedding

Post by rclark » 11 months ago

@kj6723

This is a good article on Progesterone and male androgen alopecia, except the sample size
is very small.

http://www.androgeneticalopecia.com/hai ... ness.shtml

Only the hydroxy Progesterone group regrew hair.

For the group that only received "regular" Progesterone, less than half kept their density. That's a key difference.

That is true in my experience, with the "pure" USP non hydroxy Progesterone. My density, although not
good (Norwood three, beginning stages of Norwood four on top), has been remaining the same for the last
five years.

I was worse when I was forty three. Now I'm almost forty nine.

It's been my vertex, or places that have some density that grew back. I don't think it did much (it evened out
my hair line) for my hair line though.

My hair line has been receded since my early twenties, and receding up until Progesterone treatment.

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Re: Topical finasteride, progesterone and shedding

Post by Hairblues » 11 months ago

rclark wrote:
11 months ago
@@kj6723

This is a good article on Progesterone and male androgen alopecia, except the sample size
is very small.

http://www.androgeneticalopecia.com/hai ... ness.shtml

Only the hydroxy Progesterone group regrew hair.

For the group that only received "regular" Progesterone, less than half kept their density. That's a key difference.

That is true in my experience, with the "pure" USP non hydroxy Progesterone. My density, although not
good (Norwood three, beginning stages of Norwood four on top), has been remaining the same for the last
five years.

I was worse when I was forty three. Now I'm almost forty nine.

It's been my vertex, or places that have some density that grew back. I don't think it did much (it evened out
my hair line) for my hair line though.

My hair line has been receded since my early twenties, and receding up until Progesterone treatment.
What do you think about Brotzu?

I’m hoping for something to add I’m hoping this is the thing.

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Re: Topical finasteride, progesterone and shedding

Post by kj6723 » 11 months ago

rclark wrote:
11 months ago
@@kj6723

This is a good article on Progesterone and male androgen alopecia, except the sample size
is very small.

http://www.androgeneticalopecia.com/hai ... ness.shtml

Only the hydroxy Progesterone group regrew hair.

For the group that only received "regular" Progesterone, less than half kept their density. That's a key difference.

That is true in my experience, with the "pure" USP non hydroxy Progesterone. My density, although not
good (Norwood three, beginning stages of Norwood four on top), has been remaining the same for the last
five years.

I was worse when I was forty three. Now I'm almost forty nine.

It's been my vertex, or places that have some density that grew back. I don't think it did much (it evened out
my hair line) for my hair line though.

My hair line has been receded since my early twenties, and receding up until Progesterone treatment.
Thanks for the info

I think though that for now I'm going to primarily stick to stuff that's got plenty of data to back it. I'm tired of diving down these rabbit holes of stuff that "might" be making a difference

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Re: Topical finasteride, progesterone and shedding

Post by rclark » 11 months ago

Hairblues wrote:
11 months ago
What do you think about Brotzu?

I’m hoping for something to add I’m hoping this is the thing.
They are selling/showing the formula for Brotzu's at Regrowth.com. I want to make
sure it's legitimate.

I'm happy for any new breakthrough in hair loss these days.

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Re: Topical finasteride, progesterone and shedding

Post by koolaidshade » 11 months ago

well @rclark , i have compounded 2% progesterone in 5% minoxidil now. its a 60ml bottle that costed $40.

How much did you get yours for, and where at?

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Re: Topical finasteride, progesterone and shedding

Post by rclark » 11 months ago

One cost $117.00 per 110ml bottle, and the other costs $99.00 per tube 60ml bottle.

The 110ml bottle contains the following:

15% Minoxidil
2% Progesterone
0.01% Finasteride
0.01% Hydrocortisone
0.0025% Retinol
0.00003% Latanoprost

The 60ml bottle contains the following (https://www.medicalwellnesscenter.com)

30% Minoxidil
0.05% Progesterone
0.01% Finasteride
0.01% Hydrocortisone

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Re: Topical finasteride, progesterone and shedding

Post by koolaidshade » 11 months ago

rclark wrote:
11 months ago
One cost $117.00 per 110ml bottle, and the other costs $99.00 per tube 60ml bottle.

The 110ml bottle contains the following (https://www.hairregrowthmd.com):

15% Minoxidil
2% Progesterone
0.01% Finasteride
0.01% Hydrocortisone
0.0025% Retinol
0.00003% Latanoprost

The 60ml bottle contains the following (https://www.medicalwellnesscenter.com)

30% Minoxidil
0.05% Progesterone
0.01% Finasteride
0.01% Hydrocortisone
damn, charging a shit ton of money just to weigh out some powder that costs pennies, add it to a bottle of solvent, and mix/sonicate it.

why is your minoxidil so strong? do you see benefit from it?

also, is the hydrocortisone to remedy the inflammation from the high concentration of minoxidil?

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Re: Topical finasteride, progesterone and shedding

Post by rclark » 11 months ago

koolaidshade wrote:
11 months ago
damn, charging a shit ton of money just to weigh out some powder that costs pennies, add it to a bottle of solvent, and mix/sonicate it.

why is your minoxidil so strong? do you see benefit from it?

also, is the hydrocortisone to remedy the inflammation from the high concentration of minoxidil?
It's pure, and the thirty percent is the highest you can go. For me, yes, it's worth it.

The hydrocortisone is for the high Minoxidil, and the adverse affects it can have on the
scalp (irritation). Even five percent irritates some people.

If someone doesn't want to try it, that's there decision.

I'm not here to push medications on people, or give free advertisements.

It works for me. I'm not losing hair. By that, I mean compared to a man who is "DHT resistant", I lose
less hair than him. I lose a total of five hair follicles per month.

The combination of Finasteride and Progesterone works for me. Finasteride helped my hair grow
back in, but the Progesterone pushes it, and seems to do more.

As of now, I'm near fifty years old, and I'm a Norwood three. In my early forties, I was a
Norwood five, so I've come a long way in six years.

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Re: Topical finasteride, progesterone and shedding

Post by rclark » 10 months ago

The reason I take a lot of Minoxidil is just to grow my hair faster. I've had
clipper length hair for five years, done with it. I might cut down the
Minoxidil as it gets longer.

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Re: Topical finasteride, progesterone and shedding

Post by shadylane » 10 months ago

I remember I used a bottle of medroxyprogesterone and minoxidil for a month, it boosted my mood after applying it.

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Re: Topical finasteride, progesterone and shedding

Post by rclark » 10 months ago

shadylane wrote:
10 months ago
I remember I used a bottle of medroxyprogesterone and minoxidil for a month, it boosted my mood after applying it.
That's definitely good to hear.

More importantly, did any of your hair grow back?

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Re: Topical finasteride, progesterone and shedding

Post by shadylane » 10 months ago

rclark wrote:
10 months ago
That's definitely good to hear.

More importantly, did any of your hair grow back?
I didn't use it long enough it was pretty expensive, I might try it again though.

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Re: Topical finasteride, progesterone and shedding

Post by rclark » 3 months ago

Although my main vendor, hairregrowthmd is out of business, there is some good news.

Found another vendor that will make the compounded medication, and they are good.
Now I just have to get a doctor that hairregrowthmd recommends. I am still contacting
people who have worked over there, even though they are currently out of business.

Hairgrowthmd did a lot and it is too bad they are out of business. They put the formula in
ice packs from ACS pharmacy in Floriday, to protect it from hot weather. That said, it's
currently Spring and it appears without hairgrowthmd, they ignore.

It appears that another pharmacy will make it from me, and I order there products and
they always do a good job.

That said, finding the doctor will be difficult. I am going to find one from hairregrowthmd,
because medical wellness center refuses to prescribe two percent Progesterone, even after
I said I was taking it since 2016, without any side effects.

Hard to believe.

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