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Re: Making sense of the current political climate

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Of course less casualties by fatal gunfire is better.

I don’t think we have that many people committing the actual mass shootings. They are just able to create so many casualties due to the weapons and the time frame in which to fire thei weapons.
If they don’t have these weapons, and can do less casualties in other ways, logically, of course this is the lesser of two evils.

In addition to gun control, the hate groups, even a site like this I’m afraid to say it, should be monitored the same way the FBI monitors for underage porn. They don’t haphazardly attest people but they monitor people who expres interest in naked kids. So when they cross a line, they can catch them. They also have undercover agents who pose as children to honey-trap the men.
So let’s say someone is talking smack about Jews wanting to replace whites with brown people, they can monitor their rhetoric. If it sticks to just expressing their thoughts fine, but if it starts to cross a line with ‘they should die’ then they start to monitor this persons online presence. And so forth. It’s stil free speech, but it’s being observed in case it turns to something else.

The FBI MAJORLY cut down on pedophilia on the internet. Why? Because they were funded to do so.

This president and republican administration need to fund such ventures. They also need to allow for the CDC to do a study on gun violence that they e wanted to do for a long time.

The FBI and CIA (since it is gloabal) need to do effectively what they did to push back on Muslim terrorism in USA. In addition to some reasonable gun control and in addition to better mental health. When was the last really effective Muslim attack here since 9/11 and now let’s compare that to these mass shootings by non-Muslims.

And yes, I’m pro gun rights. I don’t own a gun myself but I’ve handled guns. I don’t have this irrational fear of guns and I understand the history of my country and why in some states especially guns are a way of life and not much to fear. We aren’t that old a country and we have a history of survival that involved guns.
What I don’t accept, and I know Some skilled hunters who agree with me on this, is the necessity for average folks to own certain types of guns and amo.

This all or nothing logic I don’t buy. And if you know how agencies like cia and fbi work, they go after things in a multi pronge manner.
This doesn't answer my question.

The process looks like this:

Some white countries like Iceland or USA have a lot of guns > Gun and other violence increases dramatically as social cohesion is lost as diversity increases > even if guns are removed from the equation, all kinds of other violence remains which was not present at step 1.

So again, what does banning guns do aside from take away any real means of defense from the native population? Who are now subject to all kinds of violence and abuse they previously weren't?

What kind of society do you want to live in? One where MAYBE a guy with a gun goes nuts once every blue moon, or one where acid, knife, van, sexual assaults, etc. happen literally daily like right now?

13/50 is a very real statistic. If tomorrow there were no black people in America, there would be 50% less violent crime.

In a society like Iceland, what possible reason exists to ban guns? Nobody is killing each other with them.

They only seem to be killing each other in countries flooded with foreigners.

I'm just not sure why people aren't seeing the obvious solution to this problem instead of demanding that we punish white people even further.

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Re: Making sense of the current political climate

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This doesn't answer my question.

The process looks like this:

Some white countries like Iceland or USA have a lot of guns > Gun and other violence increases dramatically as social cohesion is lost as diversity increases > even if guns are removed from the equation, all kinds of other violence remains which was not present at step 1.

So again, what does banning guns do aside from take away any real means of defense from the native population? Who are now subject to all kinds of violence and abuse they previously weren't?

What kind of society do you want to live in? One where MAYBE a guy with a gun goes nuts once every blue moon, or one where acid, knife, van, sexual assaults, etc. happen literally daily like right now?

13/50 is a very real statistic. If tomorrow there were no black people in America, there would be 50% less violent crime.

In a society like Iceland, what possible reason exists to ban guns? Nobody is killing each other with them.

They only seem to be killing each other in countries flooded with foreigners.

I'm just not sure why people aren't seeing the obvious solution to this problem instead of demanding that we punish white people even further.
I actually think I addressed your question thoroughly.

I never said there should be a gun ban. If you read my reply you would know that.

The rest of what you wrote I don’t agree about but I’m not going to write it all out again as to why. No offense but if you aren’t hearing me in previous replies I don’t see the sense in repeating it.

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Maybe you're right -- I do respect your instincts on character judgment -- but I'm not reading things the same way.

I think that Beto is sounding this bad in part because he doesn't believe the ultra rehearsed and choreographed things that he says. When he speaks he just checks off boxes in a methodical manner. It is actually too perfect, which places him in kind of an uncanny valley. He might be getting coached into a defensive strategy.

I don't consider Ted Cruz to be that pathetic. I think that he's a formidable force. For example, he was the only Republican who could hold his own against Trump.

And though Beto lost to Cruz, his campaigning apparently helped a lot of Democrats in down ballot races.
He successfully baited Trump (not that it’s hard to do) into a fight. That’s not too dumb. He’s not great at debating so far. But will be interesting what he does with Trump coming to his turf. It can be a moment For Castro to shine as well. He’s shown some teeth in the debates I didn’t expect which was kind of cool. (Castro)

Elizabeth Warren for me at the moment is shinning, even though I disagree with a lot of her policies. I don’t believe in wiping slate clean on student debt for example or taking away a choice of health care.
I’m more in line with Amy Klobuchur.
I also actually like some of what the hottie Tulsie has to say but it’s too many people it’s actually annoying.

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Re: Making sense of the current political climate

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What is going on? :worried:

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Re: Making sense of the current political climate

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I actually think I addressed your question thoroughly.

I never said there should be a gun ban. If you read my reply you would know that.

The rest of what you wrote I don’t agree about but I’m not going to write it all out again as to why. No offense but if you aren’t hearing me in previous replies I don’t see the sense in repeating it.
Oh my bad, you advocated for gun control and surveillance.

It's not the same :thumbup:

If we can have AR-15s and stuff without massive gun violence (and we know that we can), then why not? But in order for that to be a thing, we need more social cohesion. To get more social cohesion, we need to be the dominant majority again. It would also help if men were men again and women were women.

It would also help if we didn't have militant, AIDS-carrying pedophile victims undermining every sacred familial structure at every opportunity.

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Taken to its conclusion, the position that you and those with your viewpoint have is that white people must never be allowed to have their own homes; they belong to everyone. Because to have our own homes again means being "racist" and being racist is the worst thing you can ever be because a bunch of people decided it was about 50 years ago.

To the leftwing crowd, white people not having our own homes is worth any cost.

Highest suicide level since the second world war? Worth it.

https://news.yahoo.com/u-suicide-rates- ... 40362.html

Little girls being run over and cut in half by van-wielding muslims? Worth it.

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Tons of women in Cologne and Sweden being raped? Absolutely worth it
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Getting horribly disfigured by acid attacks? Worth it.
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Thousands of people murdered in gun and gang violence every year? You better believe it's worth it.

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Punishing law-abiding citizens and rendering them defenseless because a few snap under the pressure of man-made horrors beyond our comprehension instead of addressing the problem? Oh fuck yeah

http://www.startribune.com/democrats-pu ... 526087742/

You would end the lion's share of gun violence in America tomorrow, and all the terrorism in Europe if you just repatriated most of these people. But that would mean you can't just give you and your ancestor's homes to the entire world, so being brutalized in every way possible is preferable! But we must draw the line at mass shootings done by white guys who've snapped from it all. That's how much leftists and normie-cons hate themselves.
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What is going on? :worried:
What's going on? You know what's going on. They're all just behaving like good individuals.

There was no slow march through the institutions, especially academia, meant to subvert western civilization; to make our men lambs

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and their men butchers

Nobody has made anyone do anything.

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Re: Making sense of the current political climate

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That Guy wrote:
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Oh my bad, you advocated for gun control and surveillance.

It's not the same :thumbup:

If we can have AR-15s and stuff without massive gun violence (and we know that we can), then why not? But in order for that to be a thing, we need more social cohesion. To get more social cohesion, we need to be the dominant majority again. It would also help if men were men again and women were women.

It would also help if we didn't have militant, AIDS-carrying pedophile victims undermining every sacred familial structure at every opportunity.

Image

Taken to its conclusion, the position that you and those with your viewpoint have is that white people must never be allowed to have their own homes; they belong to everyone. Because to have our own homes again means being "racist" and being racist is the worst thing you can ever be because a bunch of people decided it was about 50 years ago.

To the leftwing crowd, white people not having our own homes is worth any cost.

Highest suicide level since the second world war? Worth it.

https://news.yahoo.com/u-suicide-rates- ... 40362.html

Little girls being run over and cut in half by van-wielding muslims? Worth it.

Image

Tons of women in Cologne and Sweden being raped? Absolutely worth it
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Getting horribly disfigured by acid attacks? Worth it.
Spoiler
Show
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Thousands of people murdered in gun and gang violence every year? You better believe it's worth it.

Image

Punishing law-abiding citizens and rendering them defenseless because a few snap under the pressure of man-made horrors beyond our comprehension instead of addressing the problem? Oh fuck yeah

http://www.startribune.com/democrats-pu ... 526087742/

You would end the lion's share of gun violence in America tomorrow, and all the terrorism in Europe if you just repatriated most of these people. But that would mean you can't just give you and your ancestor's homes to the entire world, so being brutalized in every way possible is preferable! But we must draw the line at mass shootings done by white guys who've snapped from it all. That's how much leftists and normie-cons hate themselves.



What's going on? You know what's going on. They're all just behaving like good individuals.

There was no slow march through the institutions, especially academia, meant to subvert western civilization; to make our men lambs

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and their men butchers

Nobody has made anyone do anything.
The arbitrary anti-gay and anti-jew agenda you push detracts from legitimate immigration concerns and viable, beneficial immigration policy changes. Seriously, it just makes you sound like a sexually frustrated generic 4chan nutjob who doesn't realise everyone else is just larping or shit-posting.

A point I'd make on top of this is that its disgusting that people ignore entirely the political persuasion and ideology of the Ohio shooter, and solely focus on that of the first. There is an implication in virtually every mainstream media article I've read that somehow the Ohio shooter should be lumped in with evil white male terrorism, or his political persuasions simple aren't addressed. Quite frankly I haven't seen leftists or the mainstream media more delusional and unhinged since the Trump admin began.




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Re: Making sense of the current political climate

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Normalization of homosexuality is a core Western value. As an example, Hadrian, one of the best Roman Emperors and whose reign lasted 21 years, was openly gay. When his lover Antinous died, he had him commemorated throughout the empire.

It's also said that Alexander the Great was gay.

But regardless, what it comes down to for me is that there's no rational reason to hate homosexuality. They're people, and the difference between them and the rest of us is likely due to fluctuations in the womb. It'd be equivalent to hating left handed people.

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Re: Making sense of the current political climate

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@That Guy, yesterday evening, part of me was completely in pas' shoes as I was reading (well, skimming) your last post, and it made quite sad to say the least.

The thing is, one of the reasons the left is able to hijack human empathy to claim that you can't hurt people is that part of it is true, a tiny part, and it's certainly not how one should go through life.

But my point is, yes, someone could legitimately feel distressed reading your posts, especially someone from Europe, I wish you could see that and it would be enough to make you stop, or at least tone down the rhetoric.

Why do you have to convey your thoughts in such a violent manner? Why do some people have to suffer so that you can indulge in your relatively cheap provocations?

Uh oh, accusations of white-knighting are coming I feel it.

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Re: Making sense of the current political climate

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Normalization of homosexuality is a core Western value. As an example, Hadrian, one of the best Roman Emperors and whose reign lasted 21 years, was openly gay. When his lover Antinous died, he had him commemorated throughout the empire.

It's also said that Alexander the Great was gay.

But regardless, what it comes down to for me is that there's no rational reason to hate homosexuality. They're people, and the difference between them and the rest of us is likely due to fluctuations in the womb. It'd be equivalent to hating left handed people.
With each homosexual guy comes a slight decrease in competition. :roll:

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Even Ann Coulter takes Trump, and other rich republicans, to task for illegally hiring illegal aliens. She says they should be charged with criminal misconduct and for once I have to agree with her 100%.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... ailsignout

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Even Ann Coulter takes Trump, and other rich republicans, to task for illegally hiring illegal aliens. She says they should be charged with criminal misconduct and for once I have to agree with her 100%.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... ailsignout
No argument here. I heard her say the exact same thing in an interview she did with Bill Maher. She's right!
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Re: Making sense of the current political climate

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nameless wrote:
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Even Ann Coulter takes Trump, and other rich republicans, to task for illegally hiring illegal aliens. She says they should be charged with criminal misconduct and for once I have to agree with her 100%.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... ailsignout
I'd like to see the government impose very steep fines on employers of illegals, but I'm not optimistic. Trump is more likely to give them a tax cut.

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