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Why does germany want so many refugees?

They've taken in approx 2.5 millions (2.500.000) over a time span of the last 5 years... family reunifications aren't even included. Germany's population was 80.2 million in 2011 (Zensus). Germany's population in 2020 is 83,02 million and rising.

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Germany to take in some 1,500 migrants from Greece

Angela Merkel's government has said Germany will take in additional migrants from Greece and in particular Lesbos. More than 12,000 people were left homeless by fires at the refugee camp Moria.

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Germany to take in more than 1,500 migrants from Greek islands

BERLIN (Reuters) - Germany has agreed to take in 1,553 migrants stranded on Greek islands after a fire destroyed an overcrowded camp, Chancellor Angela Merkel’s spokesman said on Tuesday, in a gesture of solidarity with its fellow European Union member state.

Source: https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-europ ... SKBN2660ZZ
Greece vows to empty Lesbos of all refugees by Easter after fire

The island of Lesbos will be emptied of refugees by next Easter, the Greek government has vowed, as it welcomed Germany’s offer to take in 1,500 people left without shelter.

Following the devastating fires that destroyed the notoriously overcrowded Moria facility last week, Greece’s top public order official said plans would be accelerated to decongest the outpost.

“They will all leave,” the civil protection minister, Michalis Chrysochoidis, told the Guardian.

Source: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... -by-easter
Apparently, Marxist/ Socialist Angela has a lot of love to spare/share (except of course for Europeans). Perhaps she will accommodate half of them at her private residence and the other half will be generously housed in the Reichstag Building in Berlin? No? Ohh, I understand, it's only the money of the taxpayer.

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H. Bimmler wrote: 1 week ago Why does germany want so many refugees?

They've taken in approx 2.5 millions (2.500.000) over a time span of the last 5 years... family reunifications aren't even included. Germany's population was 80.2 million in 2011 (Zensus). Germany's population in 2020 is 83,02 million and rising.

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Apparently, Marxist/ Socialist Angela has a lot of love to spare/share (except of course for Europeans). Perhaps she will accommodate half of them at her private residence and the other half will be generously housed in the Reichstag Building in Berlin? No? Ohh, I understand, it's only the money of the taxpayer.
My best guess is that they were brought in to provide Germany with a cheap labour source.

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In a couple interviews the past few days Michael Cohen says that Trump will "manipulate the ballots" and that Trump always told him that "it doesn't matter how people vote; what matters is WHO COUNTS THE VOTE." I get the sense that Michael Cohen is right. I do believe that Donald Trump is going to try to rig the inner-machinery of American voting systems. I believe Trump's rigging efforts will be effective, which will result in a false victory for Donald Trump. I think the democrats will take the issue to court, they will have concrete scientific evidence supporting their position that Trump rigged the vote count somehow, and all-hell will break loose. It could go one of two ways. If the democrats win their court cases Joe Biden will become President for 4 years. If Trump wins the court cases Donald Trump will become President again, and then he will manipulate things so he becomes President-for-life. Democracy could be over in the United States.

People always say every election cycle is the most important election ever but this time it really is. Trump is trying to rig the election right before our eyes by making key changes at the Post Office. Trump will do everything he has to, to win the election. He has to because if he loses he'll become a regular citizen, which will result in him being prosecuted by state prosecutors, such as Cyrus Vance in New York. Team-Trump is surely talking to GOP people involved in vote tabulations at the state level to persuade them to give Trump the win even if he doesn't win. America has never faced such a serious threat to its' democracy.

And US military leaders have already publicly stated that they will not interfere in a disputed election result. In other words, if Trump uses force to keep the presidency the military might get involved but if Trump rigs the vote tabulations to win and the democrats challenge Trump's win in the courts that will = a dispute, and the military says they won't get involved in a disputed election result. And while the "dispute" is playing out 40% of the US population will be screaming that Trump won fair-and-square because they don't care about US democracy. They just want their guy (Trump) to stay in power. 60% of the American people will be screaming that Trump rigged the election but Trump and the GOP will ignore the 60% who are screaming that Trump stole the election.

Democracy in America is hanging by a thread. It will be up to the Supreme Court whether or not to save American democracy, if the Supreme Court has the will to do so. The Supreme Court is 5/4 republican.
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Guest-4 wrote: 1 week ago My best guess is that they were brought in to provide Germany with a cheap labour source.
But most of them are functional illiterates. Where would they work?

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Germans are such vassals. Ridiculous.

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H. Bimmler wrote: 1 week ago But most of them are functional illiterates. Where would they work?

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Germans are such vassals. Ridiculous.
Hey man I'm not the Chancellor :-)

The way that I perceive Germany's situation is that they want to expand as a power and as the hegemon of Europe. A lot of jobs will move to Germany from the UK due to Brexit, as London will lose its status as Europe's financial center to Frankfurt. I'm told that Frankfurt is now seeing a tremendous boom in construction because of that. There should also be a bit of a boom from increased Russo-German cooperation, particularly in Eastern Europe.

Real economic growth requires a service sector. You can't have an economy where everyone is a banker or a scientist. You need people to work as janitors, taxi drivers, and fast food workers.

Are you German by the way? Your name seems German.

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Guest-4 wrote: 1 week ago You need people to work as janitors, taxi drivers, and fast food workers.
Yes, but we already have enough of those low-skilled-workers. We have so many fast food workers and taxi drivers, more than there is demand for. There is heavy competition for those jobs and the wages are very low. At least in Germany.

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Guest-4 wrote: 1 week ago Are you German by the way? Your name seems German.
Yes, a "German" with polish background. I was born in Poland and migrated (in)to Germany in the 90s.

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H. Bimmler wrote: 1 week ago Yes, but we already have enough of those low-skilled-workers. We have so many fast food workers and taxi drivers, more than there is demand for. There is heavy competition for those jobs and the wages are very low. At least in Germany.

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Yes, a "German" with polish background. I was born in Poland and migrated (in)to Germany in the 90s.
How are you finding life in Germany? Why do you think Germany took in 1+ million Syrians? What do your friends think?

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Guest-4 wrote: 1 week ago How are you finding life in Germany? Why do you think Germany took in 1+ million Syrians? What do your friends think?
Life in Germany was nice, but for the last 5 years I 've been not recognizing my home city anymore... it has been flooded with hundreds of thousands arabs, north africans and other muslim "minorities". And even worse: Germany has always been a high-tax-country, but since 2015 taxes, duties and health insurance contributions have been skyrocketing at an ernormous pace.

https://www.welt.de/wirtschaft/article2 ... eiter.html
https://www.welt.de/wirtschaft/article1 ... pitze.html

Meanwhile our infrastructure (roads, schools, universities, railroads... etc.) is rotting away. You cannot invite millions of migrants into the wellfare system without repercussions for the tax-paying workers and employees. It's just insane. Many highly-qualified academic workers have been leaving Germany due to those high financial burdens.

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Guest-4 wrote: 1 week ago What do your friends think?
Some of my friends think that we should take another two million. But those friends are mostly public officials / civil servants.

Some are anti-immigration and would like to have them send back.

Others don't say anything and stay quiet.

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Save America.
Roe v. Wade has got to stay

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blackg wrote: 1 week agoSave America.
from what?

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H. Bimmler wrote: 1 week agofrom what?
None of us can possibly answer that question in full as there are so many problems. A short sublist:

- overpriced private health care.
- terrible infrastructure, traffic jams, etc.
- Overpriced housing
- Environmental problems.
- High sugar diets making people fat especially children.
- Immigration that is at a higher rate than the country's assimilation and integration potential.
- Hollywood

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H. Bimmler wrote: 1 week ago Many highly-qualified academic workers have been leaving Germany due to those high financial burdens.
Going where?

How much have the taxes increased?
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Wire wrote: 1 week ago Going where?
Switzerland, Netherlands, Norway, Kanada, Australia, New Zealand, Island / Ireland, USA...
Wire wrote: 1 week ago How much have the taxes increased?
Well, we have a public health insurance fond. In 2014 we had 20 billion € reserves in that fond. In 2019 we had zero reserves, on the contrary: 3 billion gap, which is growing. I as a college student have payed for public health insurance 140€/month in 2015, right know (2020) I am paying 200€/month and rising. Many public health insurances have increased dues by 20 - 40%... And that's not all: many benefits, goods and services have been massively cut down to save money. The same goes for tuition fees. Since 2014 tuition fees have gone up by 50%.

The same goes for public unemployment insurance and statutory social insurance... costs have skyrocketed by 30 - 40 %, because the money needed for refugees (50 billion € / year) is mostly taken from public unemployment insurance fond and statutory social insurance fond. And that's not enough: Our finance minister Olaf Scholz has already anounced more and significantly higher taxes for 2021.

Cities / Towns have increased levies, charges and contributions for waste collection, sewerage, property tax, street cleaning etc. (operation and maintenance costs) by a huge amount: I got a letter for an annual price increase and it's going to be 40% higher in 2021 than in 2020. Some even get 60% price increase, depending on the town / region.

Not to mention that Germany has the highest electricity prices on the planet which are skyrocketing from year to year.

Ohh, and yes: we get a pricy CO2 tax in 2021 and the vehicle tax is going up by 20% in 2021.

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H. Bimmler wrote: 1 week ago Switzerland, Netherlands, Norway, Kanada, Australia, New Zealand, Island / Ireland, USA...


Well, we have a public health insurance fond. In 2014 we had 20 billion € reserves in that fond. In 2019 we had zero reserves, on the contrary: 3 billion gap, which is growing. I as a college student have payed for public health insurance 140€/month in 2015, right know (2020) I am paying 200€/month and rising. Many public health insurances have increased dues by 20 - 40%... And that's not all: many benefits, goods and services have been massively cut down to save money. The same goes for tuition fees. Since 2014 tuition fees have gone up by 50%.

The same goes for public unemployment insurance and statutory social insurance... costs have skyrocketed by 30 - 40 %, because the money needed for refugees (50 billion € / year) is mostly taken from public unemployment insurance fond and statutory social insurance fond. And that's not enough: Our finance minister Olaf Scholz has already anounced more and significantly higher taxes for 2021.

Cities / Towns have increased levies, charges and contributions for waste collection, sewerage, property tax, street cleaning etc. (operation and maintenance costs) by a huge amount: I got a letter for an annual price increase and it's going to be 40% higher in 2021 than in 2020. Some even get 60% price increase, depending on the town / region.

Not to mention that Germany has the highest electricity prices on the planet which are skyrocketing from year to year.

Ohh, and yes: we get a pricy CO2 tax in 2021 and the vehicle tax is going up by 20% in 2021.
One thing I respect about Germany is that the cost increases are transparent to the public via these direct taxes.
In US they hide it in inflation by just printing money, so the causal effect of policies is not immediately visible to the public.

Money needed for refugees: you said it was 50 billion € / year. Compared to the GDP ( 3500 billion € / year) it seems a minor cost.
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