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OMG. OK I'll just PM you a site and you can see for yourself. Please don't use it.
I need a new gun, yettee.
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I need a new gun, yettee.
lol, and also omg. Yes this is why I was avoiding things. Well not due to you :) , but anyway. Anyway, for whatever it's worth I think it should be a heck of a lot harder to get a gun and I vote that way.

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lol, and also omg. Yes this is why I was avoiding things. Well not due to you :) , but anyway. Anyway, for whatever it's worth I think it should be a heck of a lot harder to get a gun and I vote that way.
Because you don't want people to protect themselves and their families. :smirk:

But really, the only people I don't want having guns are violent ex cons and the mentally ill, everyone else should be protecting themselves.

Blackg can't have one as he's clearly mentally ill for being transgender
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Post by Admin » 3 months ago

So the leftist democrats stuffed a coronavirus emergency bill with muh diversity (of sex and "disability") requirements. These people are sick, suffering from a mind virus that they can't heal from. They still haven't realized that virtually no one (well only 8% of the population) supports these far left ideas, and yet they're still trying to sneakily push them on the American public.



The only way to get those bad ideas to be applied is to force them on the legal system. This would already have been unacceptable in normal times, but using a time of profound crisis to try to push those nefarious changes on a vulnerable population, there's just no excuse for it. I hope more and more democrats are going to walk away and refuse to enable such evil deeds.

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Post by Rudiger » 3 months ago

I know quite a lot people around the Bay area, San Francisco down to San Jose, over the past 2-3 years some have mellowed towards closing borders, and other things that would make the 2016 version of themselves I'll with anger.

But there were still some hardcore leftists, I mean in support of the "moderate" participants of Antifa enough to still support them as a group. That kinda hardcore.

Even before the last week the remaining few were already faltering at the complete disillusionment of what's happening within their broke ass party, and now the blocking of a stimulus package has killed it for them.

They'll always be never Trumpers, and that's fine I don't care, but they won't be voting Democrat this year I am certain (well, they are certain).

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Trump says state governors must "treat him well", if they expect any help for the corona virus.

He put the message on his Twitter account, loud and clear.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-says-g ... 00496.html

This is why I can't stand Trump. I live in the next highest infected state, for the number of people infected
from the virus. The worse state, as of March 25th, 2020, is New York.

Trump isn't taking the advice of Doctor's, who say the shutdown needs to go longer than Easter.
Trump wants to open the country on April 12th.
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The Republicans in Texas want old people to "sacrifice" themselves for the economy, and younger people.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/tex ... 31075.html

Here is the first New Jersey patient. A thirty two year old medical doctor. He needed oxygen, and had pneumonia for thirty
days. Today he is too weak to even speak on the phone. This doctor might have permanent lung damage.

https://nypost.com/2020/03/22/new-jerse ... on-oxygen/

Here's a baby who is infected with the corona virus:

https://nypost.com/2020/03/24/british-m ... ronavirus/
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Post by Rudiger » 3 months ago

After both Republicans and Democrats agreed on the stimulus package, Pelosi has unbelievably blocked it again, taking an entire 2 mins to make that decision (so it was obviously not a discussion).

Worse than that she's delayed the outcome by another day with no explanation given, and that was announced around 10am.

I really thought corona could be the last hurdle for Trump's re-election, Dems are being so insane they are making him glide through this, even with a failing economy and initial screw up of handling corona, he's trying with his highest approval rating ever. Opinion polls are even suggesting that more people are trusting Trump than the general media.

But I mean, for me that's a side note, this stimulus blocking really does leave me in a bit of shock, it's just sickening.
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As much as I wish the virus would slow down in the hotter months, I am not sure.

Florida has new cases. Georgia also has a lot of Corona virus cases. This leads me to
think that heat might not stop this virus, as anticipated.

I really hope that Trump doesn't stop the quarantine on Easter.

The Doctor's that he is working with are advising him not to do it, but I think he will
do what he wants.

Actually a lot people are angry at the way Trump is handling this.
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As much as I wish the virus would slow down in the hotter months, I am not sure.

Florida has new cases. Georgia also has a lot of Corona virus cases. This leads me to
think that heat might not stop this virus, as anticipated.

I really hope that Trump doesn't stop the quarantine on Easter.

The Doctor's that he is working with are advising him not to do it, but I think he will
do what he wants.

Actually a lot people are angry at the way Trump is handling this.
I agree, Trump has been incompetent on corona.
Speaking of the weather: We are coming into winter down here so spare a thought for your Australian friends.

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https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/05/politics ... index.html

These results can be temporary of course but I just love when CNN even have to acknowledge it. But the reason I bring this up is Chris Cilllizza's hilariously faux cryptic conclusion:

"The Point: Be wary of conventional wisdom. Especially when it concerns Trump."

Be wary of widespread approval but only when it's approving Orange Man. Which it isn't even, but it is an increase of approval, so be wary and skeptical of it.

If the numbers go down and against Orange Man, then and only then do you accept the conventional opinion, as it is then correct.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/04/17/poli ... ssion=true
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These results can be temporary of course but I just love when CNN even have to acknowledge it. But the reason I bring this up is Chris Cilllizza's hilariously faux cryptic conclusion:

"The Point: Be wary of conventional wisdom. Especially when it concerns Trump."

Be wary of widespread approval but only when it's approving Orange Man. Which it isn't even, but it is an increase of approval, so be wary and skeptical of it.

If the numbers go down and against Orange Man, then and only then do you accept the conventional opinion, as it is then correct.
You aren't understanding the point. It's the exact opposite of what you think. The conventional wisdom ("the narrative") is that Trump's approval is down, as most polls show, but in fact this more reliable poll shows it's up. So the conventional wisdom was wrong, according to Cillizza. Just as the conventional wisdom was that he'd lose the election, and he won. So the point is, don't underestimate Trump and don't follow the conventional wisdom that says he's dropping when he may not be.

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You aren't understanding the point. It's the exact opposite of what you think. The conventional wisdom ("the narrative") is that Trump's approval is down, as most polls show, but in fact this more reliable poll shows it's up. So the conventional wisdom was wrong, according to Cillizza. Just as the conventional wisdom was that he'd lose the election, and he won. So the point is, don't underestimate Trump and don't follow the conventional wisdom that says he's dropping when he may not be.
At some point, if the American people keep choosing national suicide by supporting Trump, it might no longer be legitimate to try and stop the tide.

For example, he was going on about how these manbabies pointing guns at legislators are "good people":
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To what extent would Trump's approval rating increase if one of them actually followed through?

Aside from the usual shit like like 35,000 gun deaths a year, the endless telephone harassment, potholes everywhere, and immediate bankruptcy if you develop cancer, and declining life expectancy, we're looking at several hundred thousand deaths from coronavirus and 25% unemployment. But hey, he's so funny on Twitter.

One thing that's not widely reported in the media is that the unemployment insurance system doesn't work. In some places you can't apply over the internet, you have to apply over the phone, but the phone calls keep randomly shutting off. In others, it's the reverse, but the websites keep crashing. That's by design.

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You aren't understanding the point. It's the exact opposite of what you think. The conventional wisdom ("the narrative") is that Trump's approval is down, as most polls show, but in fact this more reliable poll shows it's up. So the conventional wisdom was wrong, according to Cillizza. Just as the conventional wisdom was that he'd lose the election, and he won. So the point is, don't underestimate Trump and don't follow the conventional wisdom that says he's dropping when he may not be.
It's not a more reliable poll it's an update on the same poll, so maybe re-think why a journalist would practically admit that he's being naive and misreporting.
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At some point, if the American people keep choosing national suicide by supporting Trump, it might no longer be legitimate to try and stop the tide.

For example, he was going on about how these manbabies pointing guns at legislators are "good people":
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To what extent would Trump's approval rating increase if one of them actually followed through?
Can you be a bit more specific on how they're literally pointing guns at legislators and this image of Trump egging them on to do it?

Did he call people protesting "good people" or did he specifically say that people who point guns at legislators are good people?
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