nameless wrote: ↑
4 months ago
The sanctions were put on Russia because Russia invaded Ukraine and Russia is still in Ukraine. Hence, sanctions should remain. Trump wanted to give Russia something (lifting of sanctions) and getting nothing in exchange in return from Russia. It's the sort of thing Neville Chamberlain would do.
Keep in mind that the friction between Russia and the West is due to Russia's imperialistic activity. Russia is trying to control more of Europe. It may seem like merely verbal bickering but that is not the case. Russia has been physically changing the boundary lines in Europe by way of force. That means Russia's activity has been an attack on the west.
Yea, Trump tries to say that he only wants to drop sanctions against Russia to be nice so Russia and the West can become friends but that is not credible because if Russia is unwilling to be reciprocally nice to the West by returning western territory to the West. Imagine if someone were to kidnap your wife and refuse to give her back to you so you file a criminal complaint against the kidnapper and he tells you to drop the criminal complaint (because he doesn't want to be prosecuted) but he will still hold your wife hostage. Does that even make sense? Of course not. Of course you should not drop your case against the kidnapper if the kidnapper gets to keep your wife. This is the kind of illogical bs Trump is trying to convince us he is trying to set-up with Russia in order to make everybody become friends. His story is not credible; it's ridiculous. It's more credible that Russia and Trump made a bargain that Russia would help Trump win the 2016 election and Trump would drop sanctions against Russia (when Trump became President) in exchange.
Except sanctions weren't lifted, so the supposed evidence you and the consistently biased and Yetti that he might be a Russian agent is that he didn't lift sanctions (in actual fact they've been INCREASED under Trump, and he never said he wanted to lift them), but only because congress would have overruled his veto apparently. So in other words, he signed off on remaining and tougher sanctions on Russia and somehow you STILL interpret this as potentially suggestive of that he's a Russian agent. So I guess now someones actions and stated intentions being the COMPLETE OPPOSITE of what you suggest they are behind the scenes is irrelevant, because on the left a running theme is all one has to do is say something, no matter how boneheaded or irrational, and its true by the virtue of just saying it. Nameless is a paedophile? That's a fact, and do you know why? Because I said so. Nice logic boys!
Not to mention bombing strategic operations of primary Russian allies, not formally acknowledging acceptance of the annexation or Crimea and suggesting sanctions will remain in place until it is returned (Read: never), expelling more Russian diplomats than Obama did in 8 years, Closing a group of Russian diplomatic properties in the US, applying further sanctions effecting their energy industries, and criticising Russian pipelines providing oil to EU nations and suggesting this was a huge strategic mistake for the EU to rely upon (and it should be apparently, unless of course you're not a complete moron like you boneheads, and realise Russia is not a threat). Bunch of fucking politically illiterate dipshits you are. Yetti, you're clearly not a stupid person, so use your presumably large Yetti brain for once rather than automatically defaulting to the assumptions of a CNN host.
You on the other hand Nameless are a simple minded fucking idiot who parrots CNN talking points. An embarrassment.
I will repeat for good measure, Nameless is a fucking retard.