pjhair wrote: ↑6 months ago
I am pretty relieved too. However, Biden still needs to clinch the nomination.
@yettee , I am curious about something. You mentioned that if Bernie is nominated, you may vote for him(or write someone else in?). My question is why would you not vote for Trump? I think Bernie's policies, if ever implemented, would prove to be catastrophic and would cripple the nation. US would have open borders and people from all over the world would rush to America (including Africa, middle east, south Asia, etc). That would simply cripple the country. Do you really think America under Donald Trump is so bad that you would prefer Sanders? What has Donald Trump done that is so bad? Or perhaps you think that Sanders would tone down and wouldn't actually implement his extreme policies? Or perhaps you think that Congress would keep him in check? Well, Bernie is already promising to use executive order to implement his extreme vision, the exact quote from his website:
"While Bernie will pursue necessary legislative reforms to our immigration system, he will not accept delays from Congress, and will not trade limitless and unaccountable funding for border militarization, detention beds, and deportation forces for a deal that has yet to materialize. Bernie will use the constitutional authority vested in the president to take bold and necessary executive action if Congress fails to enact the commonsense immigration reforms supported by the vast majority of Americans."
Sanders has repeatedly called Trump an existential threat. We are nearing the end of first term of Trump's presidency and I hardly see any threat. It's so ironic that Sanders calls Trump an existential threat while he himself is the biggest threat to American way of life.
I've asked various people this, and their answer with a straight face is that Bernie's immigration policy isn't open borders, and that you wouldn't have people rush in after offering them the most comprehensive healthcare in the world, free college and social services/welfare. Honestly nuts.
The smarter ones usually suggest that he is just pandering to a certain portion of the movement and would ultimately be more pragmatic if he won the presidency, or that congress and the legal system would force him to compromise in such a way that is better than the current situation. So in other words, "I acknowledge the policy is bad, but I'm going to vote for him anyway because he probs will end up not being able to pass it". His supporters truly are geniuses.
I've said it before, but I'm so fucking sick of the talk of Bernie as a Nordic style social Democrat, he's a Democratic socialist with an emphasis on the latter part:
"Nearly half of the board of directors in any large corporation with at least $100 million in annual revenue, corporations with at least $100 million in balance sheet total, and all publicly traded companies would be directly elected by the firm’s workers."
"Large-scale stock buybacks would be “treated like stock manipulation” via repeal of the Securities and Exchange Commission’s Rule 10b-18."
(This by the way is legal virtually everywhere in the world from what I'm aware and a plan constructed by financial illiterates)
"Rules would be developed to diversify corporate boards “ensuring a significant portion of every board be comprised of people from historically underrepresented groups.” And they would require every corporation to “complete an annual report that gives the compensation, gender, and racial composition of board and employees.”
And probably the most telling of the actual agenda and whether or not he has earned the label socialist:
"and all publicly traded companies will be required to provide at least 2 percent of stock to their workers every year until the company is at least 20 percent owned by employees. "
DUHHHHHH, DAS NOT DICTIONARY DEFINITION OF SOCIALISSMZM MY POT SMOKIN COLLEGE LECTOROR SAID SO
Cannot wait for 1 v 1 Debates of Trump vs Biden though.