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Post by Guest-2 » 7 months ago

yettee wrote: 7 months ago You had a good call on Amy Klobuchar. She's still in it with a small but realistic chance. I like her too... I think when we discussed this months ago I said I liked Kamala and she'd do well, I do like her but she is out for now!
I was familiar with her for years. I can’t recall but it was several years ago I think when she won the senate and people were surprised for some reason (red state?).

She’s a slow steady politician. She was in some good debates last year with Lyndsey Graham and Ted Cruz. She’s ‘nice’ but not syrupy and able to get her points across.
She wasn’t as strong in the primary debates but to be honest no ones doing well in debates.

I think 1 of the factors of Bloomberg making progress (in addition to the money/ads) is from NOT being in the debates.
by the way where I live in NY his ads are really strong/well done. They are on constantly (not cheap)
If you disagree with the points, the marketing and messaging is still very good vs the debates. I didn’t see the Super Bowl one but I thought it was a shame he didn’t do a healthcare one or education (his education one running in NY is very strong) vs the gun one. Just for the audience. But he’s probably knows more than me as far as strategy. Probably employing better minds than mine.

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I for one like lunch and like going to the bathroom after lunch.

One thing that I liked about Australia when I lived there was that people valued their sick days and their vacation time. If you didn't take your vacation days there you might have HR come speak to you and tell you to leave.

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Afro_Vacancy wrote: 7 months ago I for one like lunch and like going to the bathroom after lunch.

One thing that I liked about Australia when I lived there was that people valued their sick days and their vacation time. If you didn't take your vacation days there you might have HR come speak to you and tell you to leave.
Working like a machine is not for everyone. I for one don't like this culture of "put work above everything" in the US. I like taking my lunches, bathroom breaks, vacations and having enough time to do my own things in the evening such as working out, talking to family, tv shows, etc. I also think people get too little vacation in the US. I have heard of companies giving only one week of vacation in some jobs. Standard is two weeks at the beginning. I fortunately get four weeks but even that doesn't feel enough.

Oh, a guaranteed way to piss me off is to expect me to work overtime(even for a day) in order to finish a project. Fortunately it has never really happened. Part of the reason is that I pick companies that offer good work life balance. Consequently, my salary is significantly less than I could be making if I wasn't so picky, but I am happy this way. I love my free time and would be absolutely miserable without it.

I hate these 9 to 5 jobs. If I can go back in time and restart my career, I wouldn't come to the US. I would stay in India and would try to become an actor. If I didn't succeed as an actor, I would start my own business. My cousins and uncles who all are in India are doing really well and are quite wealthy. They all are businessmen and multi millionaires (in US dollars). I recently found out that one of my uncles has equivalent of 5 million US dollars in cash in one of his savings account. He also owns several properties worth millions. I feel miserable being stuck in this 9 to 5 shit show.
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Post by yettee » 7 months ago

pjhair wrote: 7 months ago My cousins and uncles who all are in India are doing really well and are quite wealthy. They all are businessmen and multi millionaires (in US dollars). I recently found out that one of my uncles has equivalent of 5 million US dollars in cash in one of his savings account. He also owns several properties worth millions. I feel miserable being stuck in this 9 to 5 shit show.
Could you get in on the family business?! That's a lot of moolah.

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yettee wrote: 7 months ago Could you get in on the family business?! That's a lot of moolah.
It's not exactly a family business. My uncles own the business, not my father. Although, my father did guide them and helped them establish it as he had vast experience and contacts in the field. When I was younger, I could have taken advantage of his experience and started my own business. But I came to the US. I thought it was a good idea at the time (not any more). It's too late to do that now as I have spent around two decades in the software field.

However, my brother last year started his own software company . He is expanding fast and already has hired over ten full time software engineers. He estimates that by the end of this year, he will probably have over twenty full time engineers working for him. It's a nice opportunity for me as well. As soon as I graduate next year, I will go back to India and manage his company. Because of my extensive experience in the field, I think I will be valuable to them. I CAN'T WAIT!! The added advantage is, I will be close to my family. Something I desperately want. I am absolutely sick of living alone in the US.
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Post by blackg » 6 months ago

Joe Biden had a good showing on super Tuesday. I think he will end up being the Democratic nominee.

What do you think, @Admin, @Exodus, @rclark and @JLBB?
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Post by JLBB » 6 months ago

blackg wrote: 6 months ago Joe Biden had a good showing on super Tuesday. I think he will end up being the Democratic nominee.

What do you think, @Admin, @Exodus, @rclark and @JLBB?
I’m happy the Democratic Party got their act together and put a stop to Bernie, I was incredibly surprised Pete and Bloomberg let go of their egos and endorsed Biden too.

Progressives seriously piss me off with their attitude as if Bernie is somehow a globally normal candidate, even if he was in the Nordic states he would be considered off the rails left and ultimately their recklessness towards policy and numerical specifics makes them unviable.

Good intentions mean fuck all when your immigration policy guts the national deporting agency, even says it will reject deportation of most criminals, offers every undocumented immigrant citizenship if they’ve been in the country long enough, makes undocumented immigration and visa stays decriminalized and gives them the most comprehensive healthcare globally, free college and welfare. His supporters are made up of a mix of cult members who will support him no matter how insane the polices get and outright idiots.

Warren could still likely sway the race however. Tulsi winning a delegate could have her back on the stage too.

Unbelievable what a shitty choice the party voters have forced though. Probably the most far left mainstream presidential candidate in the Western world vs Biden who anywhere else would be considered centre right. Fuck the people who picked Bernie over Yang.

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Post by blackg » 6 months ago

i guess my sensible choice would have been Andrew Yang too.
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JLBB wrote: 6 months ago I’m happy the Democratic Party got their act together and put a stop to Bernie, I was incredibly surprised Pete and Bloomberg let go of their egos and endorsed Biden too.
I am pretty relieved too. However, Biden still needs to clinch the nomination.

@yettee , I am curious about something. You mentioned that if Bernie is nominated, you may vote for him(or write someone else in?). My question is why would you not vote for Trump? I think Bernie's policies, if ever implemented, would prove to be catastrophic and would cripple the nation. US would have open borders and people from all over the world would rush to America (including Africa, middle east, south Asia, etc). That would simply cripple the country. Do you really think America under Donald Trump is so bad that you would prefer Sanders? What has Donald Trump done that is so bad? Or perhaps you think that Sanders would tone down and wouldn't actually implement his extreme policies? Or perhaps you think that Congress would keep him in check? Well, Bernie is already promising to use executive order to implement his extreme vision, the exact quote from his website:

"While Bernie will pursue necessary legislative reforms to our immigration system, he will not accept delays from Congress, and will not trade limitless and unaccountable funding for border militarization, detention beds, and deportation forces for a deal that has yet to materialize. Bernie will use the constitutional authority vested in the president to take bold and necessary executive action if Congress fails to enact the commonsense immigration reforms supported by the vast majority of Americans."

Sanders has repeatedly called Trump an existential threat. We are nearing the end of first term of Trump's presidency and I hardly see any threat. It's so ironic that Sanders calls Trump an existential threat while he himself is the biggest threat to American way of life.
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Post by blackg » 6 months ago

Bernie Sanders' immigration policy in a nutshell (nutsack):
we are too compassionate to push back against your arrogant disregard for our borders. So welcome in, and have some welfare too.
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blackg wrote: 6 months ago Bernie Sanders' immigration policy in a nutshell (nutsack):
we are too compassionate to push back against your arrogant disregard for our borders. So welcome in, and have some welfare too.
If he is so compassionate, he can house illegal immigrants in his home and pay for their healthcare and education from his personal income. He doesn't have any right to force others like me to basically pay for college and medical expenses of whoever illegally walks into USA. Not to mention the catastrophic impact his lunatic policies will have on the quality of medical care and other services that Americans receive.

Why don't Bernie and his brothers start a charity from their personal funds that opens hospitals and schools in Mexico and Africa if they are so compassionate?? Have they even talked about opening any?
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pjhair wrote: 6 months ago I am pretty relieved too. However, Biden still needs to clinch the nomination.

@yettee , I am curious about something. You mentioned that if Bernie is nominated, you may vote for him(or write someone else in?). My question is why would you not vote for Trump? I think Bernie's policies, if ever implemented, would prove to be catastrophic and would cripple the nation. US would have open borders and people from all over the world would rush to America (including Africa, middle east, south Asia, etc). That would simply cripple the country. Do you really think America under Donald Trump is so bad that you would prefer Sanders? What has Donald Trump done that is so bad? Or perhaps you think that Sanders would tone down and wouldn't actually implement his extreme policies? Or perhaps you think that Congress would keep him in check? Well, Bernie is already promising to use executive order to implement his extreme vision, the exact quote from his website:

"While Bernie will pursue necessary legislative reforms to our immigration system, he will not accept delays from Congress, and will not trade limitless and unaccountable funding for border militarization, detention beds, and deportation forces for a deal that has yet to materialize. Bernie will use the constitutional authority vested in the president to take bold and necessary executive action if Congress fails to enact the commonsense immigration reforms supported by the vast majority of Americans."

Sanders has repeatedly called Trump an existential threat. We are nearing the end of first term of Trump's presidency and I hardly see any threat. It's so ironic that Sanders calls Trump an existential threat while he himself is the biggest threat to American way of life.
I've asked various people this, and their answer with a straight face is that Bernie's immigration policy isn't open borders, and that you wouldn't have people rush in after offering them the most comprehensive healthcare in the world, free college and social services/welfare. Honestly nuts.

The smarter ones usually suggest that he is just pandering to a certain portion of the movement and would ultimately be more pragmatic if he won the presidency, or that congress and the legal system would force him to compromise in such a way that is better than the current situation. So in other words, "I acknowledge the policy is bad, but I'm going to vote for him anyway because he probs will end up not being able to pass it". His supporters truly are geniuses.

I've said it before, but I'm so fucking sick of the talk of Bernie as a Nordic style social Democrat, he's a Democratic socialist with an emphasis on the latter part:

"Nearly half of the board of directors in any large corporation with at least $100 million in annual revenue, corporations with at least $100 million in balance sheet total, and all publicly traded companies would be directly elected by the firm’s workers."

"Large-scale stock buybacks would be “treated like stock manipulation” via repeal of the Securities and Exchange Commission’s Rule 10b-18."
(This by the way is legal virtually everywhere in the world from what I'm aware and a plan constructed by financial illiterates)

"Rules would be developed to diversify corporate boards “ensuring a significant portion of every board be comprised of people from historically underrepresented groups.” And they would require every corporation to “complete an annual report that gives the compensation, gender, and racial composition of board and employees.”
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And probably the most telling of the actual agenda and whether or not he has earned the label socialist:


"and all publicly traded companies will be required to provide at least 2 percent of stock to their workers every year until the company is at least 20 percent owned by employees. "


DUHHHHHH, DAS NOT DICTIONARY DEFINITION OF SOCIALISSMZM MY POT SMOKIN COLLEGE LECTOROR SAID SO

Cannot wait for 1 v 1 Debates of Trump vs Biden though.

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Post by blackg » 6 months ago

I'd rather a Trump versus Bernie debate. I'd actually go out of my way to watch this and not just watched the highlights on YouTube.
It would rival the Super Bowl!
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blackg wrote: 6 months ago I'd rather a Trump versus Bernie debate. I'd actually go out of my way to watch this and not just watched the highlights on YouTube.
It would rival the Super Bowl!
It is unfortunate we cannot have both. Culturally, a Bernie vs Trump would have always been the ideal race despite a disaster if Bernie ever won.

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Post by Rudiger » 6 months ago

So did Trump basically push support for Bernie (out of the Dem nominees anyway) knowing his endorsement would dent Bernie's chances, and Trump would be left with ye senile ol fool to absolutely rip apart in debates? It's going to be a slaughter.

Though I'd love it if creepy uncle Joe challenges Trump to a push up contest and says "look, fat..."
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