pjhair wrote: ↑
10 months ago
@Admin I meant to ask you this question earlier. What's your opinion on Vlaams Belang? Are they really extreme right as the article implies? Media call president Trump far right as well so I take their claims on issues like this with a grain of salt unless they present supporting evidence.
Oh that's a hard one. Alright, the truth? As Vlaams Belang representative Sam Van Rooy, who I admire a lot (as well as his father Wim Van Rooy) says: "Far-right? There is no far-right in Belgium since being far-right was actually outlawed after World War II." No one is claiming ethnic superiority or segregation anymore. But people are still claiming equity (equality of outcome, or communism) and disdain towards the privileged class (who transmuted into cisgender straight white males). Only one extreme is illegal, which create this dangerous imbalance.
Now the game that some people I know play is saying that "yeah Vlaams Belang may appear right-wing, but deep down, they're still vile racists!" And then they cite isolated examples of one of their fringe members saying that they hate foreigners. "See!" They actually exclude those members immediately, but you know how all conspiracy theories work, right? It's all part of the plan to make themselves look moderate, they still have those secret meetings underground in which they drink pure Flemish beer and talk about the oppression of minorities, women, homosexuals, Jews, etc.
Now let's play the devil's advocate of the people who say they are extreme-right. The party was truly funded by ex-nazis, it used to be called the Vlaams Block and had to change its name because it got outlawed (see?) due to the fact that three of their antennas had distributed racist flyers. So it's sort of the aura the party has, and it's hard to move away from it. People will play the game of showing their history all the time, and I get why it works for their detractors and evil people on the fence.
I wouldn't vote for them, I actually don't, and I remain suspicious of them to an extent. But they have some intelligent members who are not actually racist which I like to read, like Sam Van Rooy, very well-spoken and actually saying something of substance, which helps me perfect my Dutch. And that goes without saying, I don't agree with everything he says either (Jesus what times do we live in that you have to say that all the time!), for example, he says that he doesn't like Chinese neighborhoods, he wants everything to remain Flemish! Meh, I guess I remain a leftist cuck on that kind of issue.
So I guess the answer is yes and no. What I always tell people pouring their vitriol on them (or worse their voters) is: why the hell do you think this happens? Why can't your parties propose something better? The mainstream political parties in Belgium are really hopeless in that regard, at the exception of the NVA, which is still quite popular but has also lost voters to the Vlaams Belang. They don't talk about any subject that would actually interest the voters, they don't dare to speak frankly about immigration, islamization, the climate change hysteria, etc. And our citizens aren't that dull or stupid.
And no, their decision to vote for them, just like the decision of Americans to vote for Trump is not racism, maybe it is for a small minority of them. But it's mostly knee-jerk self-preservation in the fact of the constant assault they face from the radical left, only the other day, someone replied to me on social media: "Trump voters are all white men from the countryside, with no higher education who believe in God". I replied to him, what's wrong with any of those attributes? And he of course he said: "Well they're all racist, just like you!" Those morons are making things worse and pushing people even more to the right. "I'm attacking you at the core of your being but please be nice and submit to me, to the educated left from the big cities, we know what's good for you!"
Now the same pattern is emerging all over Europe: most of its citizens are scared, like to the core of their being, of the future, of losing their home, and I'm not talking about their physical home, but their sense of belonging. It's something to take very seriously if we want to bring people back to the center, to voting for moderate parties. They need to start tackling those issues and work in the interest of our countries' citizens again. Right now the mainstream parties refuse to do it, so people vote for parties like Vlaams Belang.