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Re: IoHL Community Coffee Shop

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"White people in the past had petty squabbles over land so therefore just let yourself get flooded with infininiggers, goy; it's totally the same thing".

That's where you're going with this, and it's completely fucked retarded.
You keep justifying hardcore racism by whites against Slavs, why? Nazis annhilated them and saw them as subhuman, North American Anglo Saxons saw them as an inferior race and tried to bar them entry. None of this is a petty squabble over land.

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Re: IoHL Community Coffee Shop

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yettee wrote:
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You keep justifying hardcore racism by whites against Slavs, why? Nazis annhilated them and saw them as subhuman, North American Anglo Saxons saw them as an inferior race and tried to bar them entry. None of this is a petty squabble over land.
This is a valid point @That Guy . You have argued that Slavs would have been better under Nazi regime than how their own leaders were treating them. For the sake of argument even if we assume that to be true , treatment of Slavic rulers of it's people can't be used to ignore the horrific treatment of them By Nazis. One evil doesn't justify the other. A person X can't justify his crimes by pointing out that person Y also committed the same crimes.

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In general, at least within North America, it's abundantly clear to me that height (assuming a proportionate frame) is vastly more important than hair in order to attract women. The ideal height is in the range of 6'1-> 6'4, where I'm giving a range both due to being uncertain, and due to women having slightly different preferences. If you're in that height range, a receding hair line is a null or negligible limiting factor to your romantic and sexual potential.
I slightly disagree with you on this. Height is of course extremely important and makes a huge difference. However, once you have passed a certain threshold, I would say around 5'8, face starts to dominate therefore hair becomes very important. I say this because of my own experiences. In my college, women in general preferred going out with guys with good looking faces. I would frequently see them ignoring an average looking 6'1 and going out with good looking 5'8. It may be the case that my theory only applies to women in early twenties. Perhaps in that age women are attracted to cute looking men. Also, it may only apply to north american women as average height here is shorter than Europe.

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Re: IoHL Community Coffee Shop

Post by EvilLocks » 6 days ago

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At the very least, EvilLocks and myself have a long track record of emphasizing the importance of height. We're just telling you what you think.
To be completely blunt here (hope people appreciates the honesty and don't take it as being rude) - height and penis size in males are the most important attributes.
That doesn't mean you have to be 6'5 with a porn sized penis, but being at least of normal height and penis size is important to females and anything above that is an added bonus.
Being 5'2 as a man is a huge setback, even if he were to look like Brad Pitt facially and have a full head of hair he would likely find himself struggling with the vast majority of dateable females. A man like this would have to make big money to have a chance really.

I would rank it like this:
#1 height
#2 penis size (as long as it's of normal size)
#3 facial aesthetic
#4 body
#5 hair

For women the biggest physical setbacks are aging and being fat. Some guys have preferences like the girls must have big boobs, she must be tall, she must be blonde etc. but I think in general as long as you're youthful and thin a girl has a chance with lots of guys out there.
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Re: IoHL Community Coffee Shop

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EvilLocks wrote:
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To be completely blunt here (hope people appreciates the honesty and doesn't take it as being rude) - height and penis size in males are the most important attributes.
That doesn't mean you have to be 6'5 with a porn sized penis, but being at least of normal height and penis size is important to females and anything above that is an added bonus.
Being 5'2 as a man is a huge setback, even if he were to look like Brad Pitt facially and have a full head of hair he would likely find himself struggling with the vast majority of dateable females. A man like this would have to make big money to have a chance really.

I would rank it like this:
#1 height
#2 penis size (as long as it's of normal size)
#3 facial aesthetic
#4 body
#5 hair

For women the biggest physical setbacks are aging and being fat. Some guys have preferences like the girls must have big boobs, she must be tall, she must be blonde etc. but I think in general as long as you're youthful and thin a girl has a chance with lots of guys out there.
Alright, this is the moment for you to define “normal size”, I guess ;).

Seriously though, I’m surprised, but once more, I’m probably projecting. For me, big natural boobs are a massive turn-on sexually, yet it has never been a factor in me being somewhat seriously interested in or even falling for a girl, so sexual factors are behind first and foremost face, face, face, height (prefer not too tall girls) and svelteness. Feel confirmed about how you rank hair though.

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EvilLocks wrote:
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I would rank it like this:
#1 height
#2 penis size (as long as it's of normal size)
#3 facial aesthetic
#4 body
#5 hair
With few exceptions, facial aesthetics are not independent of hair. Yes, some men can pull off bald look but effect of hair on face is simply undeniable. I wouldn't list those factors separately.

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Re: IoHL Community Coffee Shop

Post by EvilLocks » 6 days ago

pjhair wrote:
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With few exceptions, facial aesthetics are not independent of hair. Yes, some men can pull off bald look but effect of hair on face is simply undeniable. I wuldn't list those factors separately.
I'm not saying hair isn't important, but maybe I should have specified better. Hair is always important, but like you say some men pull of the bald look better than others. For some men (typically masculine, nice skull shape, ripped, tall++) hair can be pretty insignificant in the big picture. While others depend heavily on their hair because they have less redeeming features.
It's always better to have hair than not though, it's just the importance of it that varies from man to man. For us females it's definitely crucial to have hair haha

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Alright, this is the moment for you to define “normal size”, I guess ;).

Seriously though, I’m surprised, but once more, I’m probably projecting. For me, big natural boobs are a massive turn-on sexually, yet it has never been a factor in me being somewhat seriously interested in or even falling for a girl, so sexual factors are behind first and foremost face, face, face, height (prefer not too tall girls) and svelteness. Feel confirmed about how you rank hair though.
"An average penis size of 8.8 cm (3.5 inches) when flaccid. An average penis size of 12.9 cm (5.1 inches) when erect."

That is the median. So somewhere around that? Of course, an extra few centimeters is a bonus :lol: But if you're of roughly normal size and know how to use it, I don't see why that wouldn't be good.

What is svelteness by the way? :wtf:
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Re: IoHL Community Coffee Shop

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EvilLocks wrote:
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I'm not saying hair isn't important, but maybe I should have specified better. Hair is always important, but like you say some men pull of the bald look better than others. For some men (typically masculine, nice skull shape, ripped, tall++) hair can be pretty insignificant in the big picture. While others depend heavily on their hair because they have less redeeming features.
It's always better to have hair than not though, it's just the importance of it that varies from man to man. For us females it's definitely crucial to have hair haha

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"An average penis size of 8.8 cm (3.5 inches) when flaccid. An average penis size of 12.9 cm (5.1 inches) when erect."

That is the median. So somewhere around that? Of course, an extra few centimeters is a bonus :lol: But if you're of roughly normal size and know how to use it, I don't see why that wouldn't be good.

What is svelteness by the way? :wtf:
Seems like I've made up a noun there :roll: A girl that is svelte, i.e. slim, but also/particularly (in combination) as to how she carries herself, namely in an elegant, gracious way.

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Re: IoHL Community Coffee Shop

Post by pjhair » 6 days ago

by the way @EvilLocks , who is the women in your profile pic?

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Re: IoHL Community Coffee Shop

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pjhair wrote:
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by the way EvilLocks , who is the women in your profile pic?
I have no idea, I just stumbled upon the picture and thought she was pretty.
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I have no idea, I just stumbled upon the picture and thought she was pretty.
She is.

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Re: IoHL Community Coffee Shop

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What I find interesting is that you get dates, i.e. you (unlike me) match with women you find somewhat attractive and vice versa. Now my question would be: had any of those women known you/seen/witnessed you in person before agreeing to a date with you? And: while they (or at least some of them) compliment you on a lot of your traits, is it possible you lack some of the essential ones when it comes to dating and that prevent you from creating attraction? I’m for once not talking about looks, though you may have read a past thread of mine where I was convinced that my date ended before it started once she saw me in person, leading me to assume that I looked better to her in pics than in person.
I’d also be curious as to the looks-level of women you match and meet up with, namely in relation to my assumption above (seeing mutual dating potential in each other: is it possible that, although they are women, they are so far down the food chain that they “use” you to enjoy some attention and interest at all, possibly even enjoying the opportunity to reject someone, since they are usually on the receiving end of it?
I don't know the answer. People who know me don't know the answer and offer a lot of speculation.

I do get a fair number of matches and dates. My effort since starting the year is minimal, and I have 21 Bumble matches and 13 Tinder matches, plus whoever has been deleted or removed their account. I'll be going on a fifth first date this Friday. My pictures are ok, and I have a splendid profile text. The Bumble matches are of a generally superior quality.

Those women have seen my dating profile photos but not me. It is possible that I look less good than my photos. For example I have recently gained 15 lbs due to travel and stress. My body language might be shit in general, which would be exacerbated by a recent lower back injury (which is healing), I did the most recent date with a bad gait.

Alternatively, I may be at their minimum threshold. I sometimes go out with women that I barely find attractive out of boredom, curiosity, etc. They might be doing the same.

They compliment me on my traits, well at least some of them do. So maybe I'm coming close. Maybe I just don't have the right traits. It could also be a string of bad luck.

I don't know where they are on the looks spectrum. I know that I have different tastes than a lot of people here. Of the 4 women that I met this year, I found three attractive in their photos, and two in person.

I don't know what, if anything, I'm doing wrong personality wise. I make them laugh, I listen, they tell me their life dreams, the conversation flows. But it could be a lot of things. I might not be pacing/escalating well. I might be too honest. It might be obvious that I lack experience.

I might not be doing a good job of flaubting my strengths. I'm an educated and intelligent whose research advances the collective knowledge of humanity and is discussed all over the world. I don't know how to discuss that without sounding conceited or boring.

I'm now entering a new phase of renewed looks maxing. I bought some whitening strips, I'm fasting again, I'm finishing up my Invisalign, I'll be buying some new clothes when visiting Europe in two weeks, and I might book a hair transplant in Turkey. I have recently purchased an iron and ironing board, a better beard trimmer, abd an elliptical to have in my apartment. But after that, I want to stop. Looks maxing is a cognitive tax. There are other things to love.

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I also bought a better cell phone to increase my odds of taking a good photo. My old cell was phone was good, but it's an elderly man and was failing. I bought the Google pixel 3a, people give high ratings to the software in Google's cameras.

Also, I may be a biased sample as I've done a lot to improve my social skills in the past few years. So my prior failures from e.g. 2001 to 2016, may not be relevant.

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She is.
@EvilLocks is just exceptionally talented at finding faces of attractive women to use as avatars. She's on a roll spanning like dozens of avatars.

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Re: IoHL Community Coffee Shop

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I don't know the answer. People who know me don't know the answer and offer a lot of speculation.

I do get a fair number of matches and dates. My effort since starting the year is minimal, and I have 21 Bumble matches and 13 Tinder matches, plus whoever has been deleted or removed their account. I'll be going on a fifth first date this Friday. My pictures are ok, and I have a splendid profile text. The Bumble matches are of a generally superior quality.

Those women have seen my dating profile photos but not me. It is possible that I look less good than my photos. For example I have recently gained 15 lbs due to travel and stress. My body language might be shit in general, which would be exacerbated by a recent lower back injury (which is healing), I did the most recent date with a bad gait.

Alternatively, I may be at their minimum threshold. I sometimes go out with women that I barely find attractive out of boredom, curiosity, etc. They might be doing the same.

They compliment me on my traits, well at least some of them do. So maybe I'm coming close. Maybe I just don't have the right traits. It could also be a string of bad luck.

I don't know where they are on the looks spectrum. I know that I have different tastes than a lot of people here. Of the 4 women that I net this year, I found three attractive in their photos, and two in person.

I don't know what, if anything, I'm doing wrong personality wise. I make them laugh, I listen, they tell me their life dreams, the conversation flows. But it could be a lot of things. I might not be pacing/escalating well. I might be too honest. It might be obvious that I lack experience.

I might not be doing a good job of flaubting my strengths. I'm an educated and intelligent whose research advances the collective knowledge of humanity and is discussed all over the world. I don't know how to discuss that without sounding conceited or boring.

I'm now entering a new phase of renewed looks maxing. I bought some whitening strips, I'm fasting again, I'm finishing up my Invisalign, I'll be buying some new clothes when visiting Europe in two weeks, and I might book a hair transplant in Turkey. I have recently purchased an iron and ironing board, a better beard trimmer, abd an elliptical to have in my apartment. But after that, I want to stop. Looks maxing is a cognitive tax. There are other things to love.

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I also bought a better cell phone to increase my odds of taking a good photo. My old cell was phone was good, but it's an elderly man and was failing. I bought the Google pixel 3a, people give high ratings to the software in Google's cameras.
As for the bio: what or rather “how much” do you put in it? I always end up leaving it blank, as it would either not offer anything meaningful (and rather the usual self-marketing or pseudo witty/self-ironical stuff every other person puts there) or it feels too personal and intimate for me to share it with half of Zurich, but I do believe in can make a difference as I am a “barely-reaching-the-threshold-“guy for above average looking women at best, so I can’t afford to be lazy.

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Re: IoHL Community Coffee Shop

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Arjen wrote:
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As for the bio: what or rather “how much” do you put in it? I always end up leaving it blank, as it would either not offer anything meaningful (and rather the usual self-marketing or pseudo witty/self-ironical stuff every other person puts there) or it feels too personal and intimate for me to share it with half of Zurich, but I do believe in can make a difference as I am a “barely-reaching-the-threshold-“guy for above average looking women at best, so I can’t afford to be lazy.
I sent you my profile text. I didn't want to show up on a search engine so I did not show it here, but you can reply here if you want, just don't reference the actual text directly.

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@EvilLocks is just exceptionally talented at finding faces of attractive women to use as avatars. She's on a roll spanning like dozens of avatars.
Well, I found her: https://www.instagram.com/berta_castane/
Her name is Berta Castane and she is 16 years old lmao. She is so beautiful, but give her 2-5 years and she'll be even prettier.
She reminds me a bit of a younger Taylor Hill :)
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EvilLocks wrote:
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Well, I found her: https://www.instagram.com/berta_castane/
Her name is Berta Castane and she is 16 years old lmao. She is so beautiful, but give her 2-5 years and she'll be even prettier.
You mean she was even hotter 2-5 years ago
~get 1k likes and party~ 8-)

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