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Post by blackg » 3 weeks ago

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A lot of them are just stressed out about corona. Also, the politics of corona and these race riots is getting people riled up. This forum is a little right wing for the most part and this place is a safe space for them to express themselves as I doubt they see this stuff on their Facebook.

I say let them let off steam and in a month or two they'll be normalish again.
I wish people could let off steam without resorting to hate speech. I also wish that those who've left the forum weren't so sensitive about being on the receiving end.
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Post by Johnson » 3 weeks ago

In defense of the person in question - I'm almost certain they arent racist and are just using that language to piss the target off because its so easy.

The joke here is more or less on the victim.

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Post by Rudiger » 3 weeks ago

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Johnson and Admin, I wish you well for being among the most well adjusted and genuinely decent people despite any of the faults in your beliefs. Good intentions are worth something. I also think that Arjen particularly and Rudiger to some degree are projecting personal failings of relationships, looks and women onto you. If you believe, and what they're saying is genuinely false there's nothing to be offended by.
Good point at the end, if you know it's false then I don't understand getting offended?

For example plenty of times on here and back to HairLossTalk I've been called incel, need to get laid etc (from the likes of even JasonStatham) because of my cynical attitude towards dating, like for example my posts recently in the Tinder thread, but in these kinds of redpilled lookism/incel forums, people assume everything down to opinions on dating is 100% because of personal success or troubles, either you're deluded, coping, or you're negative black pill because you fail at dating.

While it can often be a correct assumption, it may not always be right. For example if someone tells me they "date successfully" online, and I'm looking at these insane experiments, and what others tell me, I wonder what success means to them? And usually it's, any pussy=success. The frustrating thing is they don't even realise, they think they do "alright" because they get some attention, even if it's from women I'd never consider fucking, even in my lost, baldest, fattest moments- which was around the time I joined HairLossTalk actually, but even then I still wasn't banging that lowly at all.

Or at least in comparison to that azn 3 (or barely 3) that you posted about eating her ass, even drunk and desperate I couldn't not only eat her ass, I'd morally struggle letting her give me a handjob while I watch porn. But for you, it's still "success", and doing well online, and I don't think most guys know the difference, or how terrible the dating market has truly become, but at least be aware of it. There's a discrepancy in dating in 2020, and I think it's frightening how it seems to only be getting considerably worse, yet those who insist "it's fine" have desensitised themselves to dating 3's they think are 6's, and 5/10 girls? Well those are babes, a rare match, can't let those go. Marriage material xD

Seeing that picture of the ass eaten one completely changed my perception of what level you're going for (and so did another one but she was at least decent, though I think you called her a Goddess) so when we had a back and forth polite debate about dating recently, I read your last post and it gets to a point where it's like, "we're on completely different wavelengths here" because your bar of what "success" is, is so low, and doesn't reflect what I'd call reality.

If people want to be honest with themselves with regards to dating then by all means, that's something, tell other guys if you can handle it and won't feel inadequate, date down, you'll still get pussy at least and if you want a normal social life and kids in old age, it can be very important to have a partner.

But just don't fucking kid yourselves about "doing well" with online dating, I do "well" at micro stakes poker, it won't put food on my table, and it's simply not reality to pretend it's a life changing success.
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Rudiger I'm more and more impressed by your approach to analytical interpretations of what makes for effective and intelligent argument in political discourse, particularly on your last argument with Yettee on Mattis your points constituted everything wrong with mainstream liberal media and the simpletons that eat it up. But particularly with guys like Johnson who clearly are political laypersons, you don't need to be so harsh towards them. Save it for people that pretend to be somewhat intellectual like Afro or Yettee. Also, I think you'll find that you'd be better off working in some kind of political journalism pursuit or starting a Youtube channel than wasting time making posts of genuine thoughtfulness among nihilists like Blackg, mental cases like Nameless and people that have their minds made up like Yettee or Afro.
I think you underestimate the role of The Useful Idiot, and how extremely well that is playing out right now in America and across the world. I find these types even more dangerous than those who tend to be informed, I find people who are somewhat actively informed at least have the sense to look at things that are extreme, and take a step back. However the ignorant, who fleetingly hears propaganda and reacts as expected? They are the one's you need to watch more than anyone else, and unfortunately that's the majority of them.

That's why we have globally people supporting "a small minority of rioters" and "peaceful protests", because they are too ignorant to even take a step back and think for themselves. If you presented these things to someone who isn't so desensitised, they would think "wait, maybe the narrative is wrong?" even if they are somewhat fucked ideologically, they still recognise what extremes are. Those who are silent 99% of the time, will speak up at that 1% when it matters, and especially when they should shut up the most.

I do appreciate the compliment though and funny you should say that as I do contribute both to youtubers with ideas and discussions as well as social commentators and their opinion pieces, while I have done journalism when younger it's no longer something I could devote myself to career wise, I don't have a full time passion for it.
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Post by rclark » 3 weeks ago

For me, I'm just glad @blackg and @Yettee are here.

Do I wish @Afro_Vacancy was here? Hell YES.

Do I wish @pjhair was here? Hell YES.

Of course, do I even have to say @HairBlues?

Nobody here is an idiot. I don't need to make myself look better by putting other people down.

I always got along with @pjhair, even though he had different political views, and that's OK.

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blackg wrote:
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I wish people could let off steam without resorting to hate speech. I also wish that those who've left the forum weren't so sensitive about being on the receiving end.
So do I. It's sad. People don't need to make personal attacks against each other.

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blackg wrote:
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I wish people could let off steam without resorting to hate speech. I also wish that those who've left the forum weren't so sensitive about being on the receiving end.
We cannot let hateful people win, and make others lose their voice. I really hope that @Guest-4 comes back.

Some people are just hateful, and even when their bullied victim is gone, you can see them for who they really are.
At one point I was going to do the same thing, and then I thought I cannot let a hateful person silence me.

They write on and on, endless paragraphs saying they are right, and the other person is always wrong. They are always right.
They don't understand what they did, and they will never apologize for it. The minute you take a break from a board, they
always write something hateful.

Every board has them.

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Post by blackg » 3 weeks ago

That's right, @rclark evey board has them and that's why I've never understood people leaving this site then going on to cop more abuse at another site. You can't run away from life!

We are all victims at one point or another. Resilience is in bouncing back.
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Post by yettee » 3 weeks ago

blackg wrote:
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That's right, @rclark evey board has them and that's why I've never understood people leaving this site then going on to cop more abuse at another site. You can't run away from life!
I agree with you to an extent, you're right that every site does have hateful people. But this is a small and quickly dwindling group, not a website with thousands of posters. In life, if a stranger is repeatedly calling you a racial slur, or stupid, or a mindless drone, people usually make the choice to stop interacting at some point and move on. For most adults it gets old.

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Post by Admin » 3 weeks ago

I wish members would simply say when they're feeling attacked, hurt or vulnerable, at least privately. Believe it or not, I can't read minds. If there is no complaint, I'll assume that it doesn't bother you. The alternative would be me acting like your mommy and telling everyone and their enemy of the moment: "Be nice to him, will you?" Not only is this not sustainable but it's infantilizing.

In case you hadn't noticed, raising your fist at the sky and saying it's the fault of the moderators in a passive-aggressive manner doesn't work on here. If you want action being taken, message the Global Moderators group and voice your grievances directly to us. Your feelings will be validated and taken seriously, and then actions against the perpetrator(s) will be considered.
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Post by Rudiger » 3 weeks ago

Admin wrote:
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I wish members would simply say when they're feeling attacked, hurt or vulnerable, at least privately. Believe it or not, I can't read minds. If there is no complaint, I'll assume that it doesn't bother you. The alternative would be me acting like your mommy and telling everyone and their enemy of the moment: "Be nice to him, will you?" Not only is this not sustainable but it's infantilizing.

In case you hadn't noticed, raising your fist at the sky and saying it's the fault of the moderators in a passive-aggressive manner doesn't work on here. If you want action being taken, message the Global Moderators group and voice your grievances directly to us. Your feelings will be validated and taken seriously, and then actions against the perpetrator(s) will be considered.
Nobody cared until kikejew joined the chat.

Edit; sorry to clarify I meant the fucking kike Afro, who is an afro Jew kike.
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Post by Admin » 3 weeks ago

Rudiger wrote:
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kikejew

fucking kike Afro, who is an afro Jew kike.
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Post by Johnson » 3 weeks ago

I never thought you'd ban Rudiger. It was almost like he was testing to see if you'd do it.

Even though I don't like him I dont believe him to be racist based off his posting history over the years. Like JLBB, they're probably doing it because they know it pisses a few of them off.

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Post by blackg » 3 weeks ago

Rudiger knows better than to be so irresponsible with his words, especially at this sensitive time.

Stupid, Rudi.
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Post by Johnson » 3 weeks ago

He's a smart guy. It's intentional.

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Post by Arjen » 3 weeks ago

Johnson wrote:
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I never thought you'd ban Rudiger. It was almost like he was testing to see if you'd do it.

Even though I don't like him I dont believe him to be racist based off his posting history over the years. Like JLBB, they're probably doing it because they know it pisses a few of them off.
Are you insinuating Admin gives Rudiger special treatment/treats members differently? Wanna elaborate?

Rudiger's post probably passes as satire, but at the same time I get that Admin probably had no choice.

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Post by Johnson » 3 weeks ago

Arjen wrote:
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Are you insinuating Admin gives Rudiger special treatment/treats members differently? Wanna elaborate?

Rudiger's post probably passes as satire, but at the same time I get that Admin probably had no choice.
He's clearly shown no bias.

Seems theres no debate for you to conjure.

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Post by Guest-2 » 3 weeks ago

Admin wrote:
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I wish members would simply say when they're feeling attacked, hurt or vulnerable, at least privately. Believe it or not, I can't read minds. If there is no complaint, I'll assume that it doesn't bother you. The alternative would be me acting like your mommy and telling everyone and their enemy of the moment: "Be nice to him, will you?" Not only is this not sustainable but it's infantilizing.

In case you hadn't noticed, raising your fist at the sky and saying it's the fault of the moderators in a passive-aggressive manner doesn't work on here. If you want action being taken, message the Global Moderators group and voice your grievances directly to us. Your feelings will be validated and taken seriously, and then actions against the perpetrator(s) will be considered.
what is a global moderator group?

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