Film and television discussion thread

Discuss everything else: politics, society, culture, science, philosophy, ideas, etc.
Guest-2
Hair Loss Guru
Hair Loss Guru
Posts: 1266
Joined: 2 years ago
Reputation: 2823
Norwood: NW1.5
Regimen: Topical minoxidil and finasteride

Film and television discussion thread

#26614

Post by Guest-2 » 2 weeks ago

rclark wrote: 2 weeks agoIt's not child pornography. Let's be fair about this. It's not showing children with their clothes
off.
I have no personal interest in watching Cuties, so I can't judge something I haven't seen for content if its 'good or bad or interesting". I just saw the people on social media freaking out over it and was curious what you all thought.

One of the most interesting films I had seen on the topic of a tween being overtly sexualized in a film is Pretty Baby 1978 with Brooke Shields...it may not hold up to the 2020 lens as a film worth seeing, but when I saw it in the late 80s I found it a very interesting topic to discuss at the time.

I would post a pic, but even the tame clothed ones may be too overt for this forum.
We seem to be getting puritanical up in this place :lol:

User avatar
rclark
Hair Loss Guru
Hair Loss Guru
Posts: 1620
Joined: 2 years ago
Reputation: 2380
Norwood: NW4
Regimen: Finasteride 1mg topical, topical Progesterone 2% (topical only, Minoxidil 15% hair growth only).
Using 1.5 mm needle on all bald/balding areas weekly.

Film and television discussion thread

#26617

Post by rclark » 2 weeks ago

Guest-2 wrote: 2 weeks ago I have no personal interest in watching Cuties, so I can't judge something I haven't seen for content if its 'good or bad or interesting". I just saw the people on social media freaking out over it and was curious what you all thought.

One of the most interesting films I had seen on the topic of a tween being overtly sexualized in a film is Pretty Baby 1978 with Brooke Shields...it may not hold up to the 2020 lens as a film worth seeing, but when I saw it in the late 80s I found it a very interesting topic to discuss at the time.

I would post a pic, but even the tame clothed ones may be too overt for this forum.
We seem to be getting puritanical up in this place :lol:
That is true. Brook was really big back in the day. All I remember, is she was competing with her mother for her
boyfriend, in one movie.

Guest-2
Hair Loss Guru
Hair Loss Guru
Posts: 1266
Joined: 2 years ago
Reputation: 2823
Norwood: NW1.5
Regimen: Topical minoxidil and finasteride

Film and television discussion thread

#26694

Post by Guest-2 » 1 week ago

Guest-4 wrote: 1 week ago Image
the breast milk thing, grossed me out so bad.

User avatar
Guest-4
Hair Loss Guru
Hair Loss Guru
Posts: 2146
Joined: 2 years ago
Reputation: 6144
Norwood: NW2
Regimen: 1 ml of 5% liquid minoxidil, includes ~20 mg of RU58841 58841; nizoral 3x/week, dermarolling (1.5 mm) 1x/week

Film and television discussion thread

#26695

Post by Guest-4 » 1 week ago

Guest-2 wrote: 1 week ago the breast milk thing, grossed me out so bad.
Same but it works really well for the character.

***

Have you watched Unwell on Netflix?
The most helpful meal is a happy deal.

Guest-2
Hair Loss Guru
Hair Loss Guru
Posts: 1266
Joined: 2 years ago
Reputation: 2823
Norwood: NW1.5
Regimen: Topical minoxidil and finasteride

Film and television discussion thread

#26696

Post by Guest-2 » 1 week ago

Guest-4 wrote: 1 week ago Same but it works really well for the character.

***

Have you watched Unwell on Netflix?
I haven't. But I did watch Bly house, which I want to say it was good, because it was engaging to view, but the plot holes were like Swiss cheese, ending was dumb.
Ive been watching season 1 of Evil, which was I needed something kind of 'easy' and formulaic to focus on, like background noise, and it fit the bill.

When Admin moves this, everyone has to take a shot!

User avatar
Guest-4
Hair Loss Guru
Hair Loss Guru
Posts: 2146
Joined: 2 years ago
Reputation: 6144
Norwood: NW2
Regimen: 1 ml of 5% liquid minoxidil, includes ~20 mg of RU58841 58841; nizoral 3x/week, dermarolling (1.5 mm) 1x/week

Film and television discussion thread

#26699

Post by Guest-4 » 1 week ago

Guest-2 wrote: 1 week ago When Admin moves this, everyone has to take a shot!
I would but my dog might be injured so I don't feel like it.
The most helpful meal is a happy deal.

Guest-2
Hair Loss Guru
Hair Loss Guru
Posts: 1266
Joined: 2 years ago
Reputation: 2823
Norwood: NW1.5
Regimen: Topical minoxidil and finasteride

Film and television discussion thread

#26701

Post by Guest-2 » 1 week ago

Guest-4 wrote: 1 week ago I would but my dog might be injured so I don't feel like it.
You got a dog? Mazel! I hope he’s okay. What kind of injury?

User avatar
Guest-4
Hair Loss Guru
Hair Loss Guru
Posts: 2146
Joined: 2 years ago
Reputation: 6144
Norwood: NW2
Regimen: 1 ml of 5% liquid minoxidil, includes ~20 mg of RU58841 58841; nizoral 3x/week, dermarolling (1.5 mm) 1x/week

Film and television discussion thread

#26702

Post by Guest-4 » 1 week ago

Guest-2 wrote: 1 week ago You got a dog? Mazel! I hope he’s okay. What kind of injury?
I was worrying too much. It was probably just a mosquito bite. I gave him 75 mg if benadryl and now he's knocked out lol.

I'll send you a pic via PM.

And thank you !
The most helpful meal is a happy deal.

User avatar
Wire
Hair Loss Expert
Hair Loss Expert
Posts: 577
Joined: 2 years ago
Reputation: 1157
Norwood: NW7
Regimen: Overeat

Film and television discussion thread

#26706

Post by Wire » 1 week ago

Guest-2 wrote: 1 week ago the breast milk thing, grossed me out so bad.
It's a pretty common fetish.
(Saying for a friend).
:straight-smile:

Added in 1 minute 5 seconds:
Guest-4 wrote: 1 week ago I would but my dog might be injured so I don't feel like it.
Congrats! How old is it? You have other pets?
Isn't that sexual harassment?!
Dr. House: Not if you're good looking.

User avatar
Guest-4
Hair Loss Guru
Hair Loss Guru
Posts: 2146
Joined: 2 years ago
Reputation: 6144
Norwood: NW2
Regimen: 1 ml of 5% liquid minoxidil, includes ~20 mg of RU58841 58841; nizoral 3x/week, dermarolling (1.5 mm) 1x/week

Film and television discussion thread

#26707

Post by Guest-4 » 1 week ago

Wire wrote: 1 week ago It's a pretty common fetish.
(Saying for a friend).
:straight-smile:

Added in 1 minute 5 seconds:


Congrats! How old is it? You have other pets?
1 year old. He's my only pet. I might get another dog one day, and I'd love to get an African grey parrot.
The most helpful meal is a happy deal.

User avatar
Wire
Hair Loss Expert
Hair Loss Expert
Posts: 577
Joined: 2 years ago
Reputation: 1157
Norwood: NW7
Regimen: Overeat

Film and television discussion thread

#26711

Post by Wire » 1 week ago

Guest-4 wrote: 2 weeks ago I think that an accelerator of this is that a lot of critics emphasize diversity over narrative, so producers and Hollywood executive know that you get free marketing points with more exaggerated diversity. It's similar to how they add unnecessary action scenes or hire script doctors to add random jokes. Financially, it works, but ideally, narrative, plot, dialogue,characters, etc would be the only things that matter.

The Boys, and in fact the majority of superhero stories, were progressive in their inception so they should be that way moving forward. I'm surprised you'd complain about Supergirl given that it was obviously designed as an inclusive character.

I didn't watch Watchmen.

I watched The Witcher this week. You might enjoy that. No obvious shoehorning. It had a somewhat complicated narrative structure though.

Edited to add: The Boys also makes fun of liberals, SJWs, and progressives, and it does so extensively.
Diversity, progressiveness, inclusion: Your post nicely illustrates the problem with current SJWs.
I'm all for diverse characters. Scrubs had non-white actors, Gilmore Girls was a female led show; both great shows. They did not bash The Evil White Man (women not included). They did not gloss over racial or gender differences, but group trash wasn't there.
There is line in Supergirl (I think it was said by Lana Lang to Kara which went like "I don't want to end up working for some old white men". With those precise adjectives. Change the race and see how it sounds.
And then "white martians evil" and the one good white martian takes up an African-American female persona on earth. The subtext is clear.

The Boys: good point, yes, it makes fun of liberals, so a pass for them over the recent Nazi subplot. I am just a bit burnt out by the current state of the world.
Isn't that sexual harassment?!
Dr. House: Not if you're good looking.

User avatar
Admin
Forum Administrator
Forum Administrator
Posts: 2073
Joined: 2 years ago
Reputation: 5373
Norwood: NW2.5
Regimen: 3 FUE hair transplants (5124 grafts), 5% minoxidil, hope.
Age: 30
Contact:

Film and television discussion thread

#26716

Post by Admin » 1 week ago

The fact that woke storytellers always have to parasitize beloved established franchises and seem incapable of creating their own stories and characters is no accident:



The woke left has won the culture war. It is established, powerful and has the allegiance of a plethora of media, public figures and billion-dollar corporations. It is the Empire. And yet, just like in the stories they write, they can't help but position themselves as the poor oppressed victims of an oppressive system.
:christian-cross: Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.

User avatar
blackg
Forum Moderator
Forum Moderator
Posts: 2501
Joined: 2 years ago
Reputation: 4686
Norwood: NW3.5
Regimen: Alcohol coping mechanism
Location: NSW, Australia

Film and television discussion thread

#26719

Post by blackg » 1 week ago

Keep Hollywood woke.
the road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom (but just say no)

User avatar
Guest-4
Hair Loss Guru
Hair Loss Guru
Posts: 2146
Joined: 2 years ago
Reputation: 6144
Norwood: NW2
Regimen: 1 ml of 5% liquid minoxidil, includes ~20 mg of RU58841 58841; nizoral 3x/week, dermarolling (1.5 mm) 1x/week

Film and television discussion thread

#26720

Post by Guest-4 » 1 week ago

Admin wrote: 1 week ago The fact that woke storytellers always have to parasitize beloved established franchises and seem incapable of creating their own stories and characters
We're specifically discussing Supergirl and The Boys in the past few pages whose politics flow from their source material. A lot if the best scifi of the 20th century including Star Trek, Star Wars, Dune started off as left-of-center storytelling. And among the popular works, nearly all comic books did.

Robert Heinlein is the exception, not the rule.

Added in 3 minutes 10 seconds:
Wire wrote: 1 week ago And then "white martians evil" and the one good white martian takes up an African-American female persona on earth. The subtext is clear.
The White Martians have been evil in the source material for decades, and the Martian Manhunter has been Black since the 1960s, including in the Justice League cartoons, the show Smallville, and in Zack Snyder's Man of Steel trilogy where he was played by Harry Lennix.
The most helpful meal is a happy deal.

User avatar
Admin
Forum Administrator
Forum Administrator
Posts: 2073
Joined: 2 years ago
Reputation: 5373
Norwood: NW2.5
Regimen: 3 FUE hair transplants (5124 grafts), 5% minoxidil, hope.
Age: 30
Contact:

Film and television discussion thread

#26725

Post by Admin » 1 week ago

Guest-4 wrote: 1 week ago We're specifically discussing Supergirl and The Boys in the past few pages whose politics flow from their source material. A lot if the best scifi of the 20th century including Star Trek, Star Wars, Dune started off as left-of-center storytelling. And among the popular works, nearly all comic books did.

Robert Heinlein is the exception, not the rule.

Added in 3 minutes 10 seconds:


The White Martians have been evil in the source material for decades, and the Martian Manhunter has been Black since the 1960s, including in the Justice League cartoons, the show Smallville, and in Zack Snyder's Man of Steel trilogy where he was played by Harry Lennix.
The original material was already subversive in nature, and it was understandable right after the events of World War II which showed the danger of radical exclusion to us Westerners. Supergirl was obviously a subversion of the character of Superman. The Boys is on my watchlist and I'll most likely enjoy it, even though it won't fit the current political climate in which radical inclusion or the far left is the normative order.

The problem is that Western storytellers keep using the same narrative tropes over and over again which makes people lose their understanding of crucial aspects of reality, like the importance of religion, traditional hierarchies and dogmatic rules. Even simply saying those words will make most people raise an eyebrow, if not freak out.

Andrew Breitbart was right, politics really is downstream of culture.
:christian-cross: Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.

Post Reply
  • Similar Topics
    Replies
    Views
    Last post